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spacghost
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-01-13 18:43:11 UTC
Hello looking to learn to explore and I would like to use the buzzard for now and the fit I was giving was to use was something like this

[Anathema, Anathema]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Relic Analyzer I
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Data Analyzer I

Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
Small Emission Scope Sharpener I



Sisters Combat Scanner Probe x16

I understand this is for the anathema but was told to just take off the expanded launcher and that would work for my buzzard the question I have is how would I defend myself if hacking and get jumped? Looking at the ship I can fit a weapon or is this pretty much just for getting into a site getting the loot and getting out? I die I die but at least I would want to try to fight back or is the buzzard the wrong ship to explore and fight back and if this is the case which ship would you go with trying to keep cost under 50 million as again lose what you can afford P
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#2 - 2016-01-13 19:29:15 UTC
What I use:

High:
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Mid:
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Scan Pinpointing Array II
Scan Rangefinding Array II
Scan Acquisition Array II
Relic Analyzer II

Low:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Rigs:
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I x2

Sister's core and combat probes

The buzzard is tight, so I keep the relic analyzer offline when scanning, then offline one of the scanning arrays and online the relic analyzer in space to actually run the site. IMO the reduction in scanning time by having all three arrays is worth the 5 seconds to offline/online mods in space.

In my experience, your defense in exploration is to not get caught. Fighting back is pretty pointless. I've fit a single light missile launcher on in the past, but that's not going to do anything for you if you get jumped, so it's not really worth the effort.
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#3 - 2016-01-14 03:48:58 UTC
^ nice fit but...

I do question the use of an expanded sisters launcher on something so fragile that's being used for uncloaked hacking. Downgrade to a T1/2 core launcher and save yourself 40m if you lose one...

if you're going to fit it for pvp scanning then of course put the expanded launcher back on, take off the relic scanner and put on a target painter to whore on kills from a distance :)

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2016-01-14 06:15:04 UTC
I'd probably end up with something like this:

[Buzzard, cheap does the job]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

5MN Microwarpdrive II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Cargo Scanner II
Scan Rangefinding Array II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
[empty high slot]

Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

The expanded launcher is there to occasionally probe down, you know, whatever. Or scare someone. Or, more practically, carry a reload of core probes. It really isn't needed. The additional cost of a sisters launcher definitely isn't needed, doubly so with the rangefinding array. The cargo scanner is optional but I like having one.

If your skills aren't quite up to fitting all this you have some options. The rigs can swap out for emission scope/memetic algorithm if you need help on virus coherence. The nano could swap for a suitcase or co-processor. Final high slot for a salvager if you downgrade to a core launcher? Up to you.

Anyhow. You'll lose a few of these. Don't get too attached.

If you wanted to pretend to tank, you could do this:

[Buzzard, cheap does the job with some tank]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router II

It's.... still not much of a tank. But it won't pop if you look at it funny. Your call.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#5 - 2016-01-14 16:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Cidanel Afuran
Eli Apol wrote:
^ nice fit but...

I do question the use of an expanded sisters launcher on something so fragile that's being used for uncloaked hacking. Downgrade to a T1/2 core launcher and save yourself 40m if you lose one...

if you're going to fit it for pvp scanning then of course put the expanded launcher back on, take off the relic scanner and put on a target painter to whore on kills from a distance :)


Sorry, I left it out, I carry a depot and a point, and if I find a target, refit at a deep safe so I can combat scan/be the warp in (and only be the point if I really have to be). The character I use for scanning (not this one) I actually don't want on killmails, since an inactive killboard makes it better bait.

If you aren't going to do the PvP scanning it does make sense to drop the sisters launcher down to something less expensive
Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#6 - 2016-01-14 19:27:05 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Sorry, I left it out, I carry a depot and a point, and if I find a target, refit at a deep safe so I can combat scan/be the warp in (and only be the point if I really have to be). The character I use for scanning (not this one) I actually don't want on killmails, since an inactive killboard makes it better bait.

If you aren't going to do the PvP scanning it does make sense to drop the sisters launcher down to something less expensive

Yeah, I just don't like the idea of a 40m probe launcher on a covert ops that's at *some* risk of getting caught.

I do use one on my dedicated scan alt in a Cheetah, but she's only ever purposefully decloaked to launch probes or jump into a new system - I also have one on my cloaky T3s because it's a fraction of the ship's total cost - but in all other cases I just use a T1/2 probe launcher and try to find the extra CPU elsewhere in the fit. It's marginally less efficient for scanning though not really noticeable with good skills.

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
spacghost
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-01-14 20:40:27 UTC
ok I may be looking at this differently I may have to up my spending to do so I guess I want to explore but if I do get caught I want to have a chance to blow them up before I pop if that is possible which ship should I skill into and for what fitting since losing ships
is a part of Eve and honestly I hate running I die I die shoulda had friends since it took more then one to kill me Twisted
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#8 - 2016-01-14 21:54:16 UTC
You're probably looking for an Astero. If you actually want to bag a target of opportunity or two you could do something like this while still being exploration fit:

[Astero, dicking around armor]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Mark I Compact Capacitor Power Relay

1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Data Analyzer II
Relic Analyzer II

Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Nanobot Accelerator I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Drone Speed Augmentor II

Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

Honestly that third rig slot is a placeholder. Do with it as you will.

If you don't want to actually hunt at all, you can drop the point and put in a MWD (or hell, don't dual prop and use the fourth mid for something else entirely).
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#9 - 2016-01-14 21:54:26 UTC
Eli Apol wrote:
Yeah, I just don't like the idea of a 40m probe launcher on a covert ops that's at *some* risk of getting caught.

I do use one on my dedicated scan alt in a Cheetah, but she's only ever purposefully decloaked to launch probes or jump into a new system - I also have one on my cloaky T3s because it's a fraction of the ship's total cost - but in all other cases I just use a T1/2 probe launcher and try to find the extra CPU elsewhere in the fit. It's marginally less efficient for scanning though not really noticeable with good skills.


I definitely understand why people wouldn't fit one, but right now I want any bonus to scanning I can get. I have maxed scanning skills, but when I often scan 50+ sigs daily, anything that cuts down on the time is something I go for.
spacghost
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-01-14 23:28:13 UTC
Seems the Astero will take me a few more days after my que is empty but that does seem to be more in line of what I'm looking to do I want to explore and if I get a flea I want to jump on something and drone it to death guess ill be using the buzzard to learn what to do and not do then the Astero will be what I use after I get into it now I just need to find a fit that will just get me in and out without to much of a problem since I won't be trying to kill anything just yet Blink
Thanks for the input folks and yes I don't want to lose 40million on the probe launcher so one of the cheap get the hell out fits would be the way I'm going being a noob and all to exploration fly safe

Spacghost