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Level 4 Nestor or abaddon?
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Alexis Adoudel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-10 14:11:47 UTC
Anyone got any real good level 4 mission fits for Nestors or an abadoon? Cant decide which i want to use, got amar battleship up to 5 and gallente up to 4, about to unlock T2 lasers and i've got T2 cap rechargers. Thoughts?
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-01-10 15:15:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Moonlit Raid
I'm not gonna lay it out module for module but I'd go roughly like this: -

Abaddon btw, nestor isn't great for missioning.

Rig
Discharge elu x2
CCC x1

High
ALL the mega pulse lasers

Mid
afterburner OR mwd
Cap recharger x3

Low
Heat sink x3
Reactive armor hardener
EANM
EANM OR cap power relay OR tracking enhancer
Large armor rep

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Angel Mortalitas
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-01-10 15:37:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Angel Mortalitas
Pretty much what Moonlit said and definitely skip the Nestor. For the amount of isk you would have to spend to make the Nestor (not to mention the cost of the ship itself) even come close to working you better off investing in a Palladin.

I (read: my main) gave the Nestor a go a while back just for s@$ts and giggles and, to be perfectly honest, it's a good thing I'm something of a collector Roll

Edit: grammar, doh!!
Altair Taurus
#4 - 2016-01-10 16:19:53 UTC
Nestor - ship without purpose...

Paladin - good but long training time so bring Nightmare and rule in level 4 missions!
Alexis Adoudel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-01-10 16:22:05 UTC
So i've got a modified version of that ready to fit in EFT which i'll post later but it's got 335 healed DPS and deals 541 DPS with EM 65 therm 55 kin 48 and exp 45 resistances? this good enough for soloing level 4's in high sec?
Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-01-10 16:28:11 UTC
Alexis Adoudel wrote:
So i've got a modified version of that ready to fit in EFT which i'll post later but it's got 335 healed DPS and deals 541 DPS with EM 65 therm 55 kin 48 and exp 45 resistances? this good enough for soloing level 4's in high sec?

The fit will vary in performance with skills. And bear in mind the reactive armor hardener will improve your resistances as you're getting shot. In missions it's usually only 1 or 2 types of damage so you get 30% or more in those resistances.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2016-01-10 17:19:03 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
Nestor - too expensive a ship to have a reasonable purpose...

Blink

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Jack Hayson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-01-10 17:29:57 UTC
Neither?

Apoc or Paladin.
Alexis Adoudel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-01-10 20:06:23 UTC
Jack Hayson wrote:
Neither?

Apoc or Paladin.

just used EFT to fit an apoc with triple Armor repairs for 410 DPS healed and 400dps done
Llehctim Ttirrem
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2016-01-10 23:16:03 UTC
Alexis Adoudel wrote:
Anyone got any real good level 4 mission fits for Nestors or an abadoon? Cant decide which i want to use, got amar battleship up to 5 and gallente up to 4, about to unlock T2 lasers and i've got T2 cap rechargers. Thoughts?


maybe try a Hyperion??

[High]
6 x 425mm Proto Gauss

[Mid]
Tracking Comp II
100MN Monopropellent AB
3 x Cap Recharger II

[Low]
Damage Control II
3 x Mag Stab II
Large Armor Rep II
2 mission specific Hardeners.

[Rig]
2 x Large Aux Nano Pump II
Large Nanobot Accelerator II

[Drone]
5 x heavy/sentry
5 x med
or
5 lights
5 meds
4 heavies/sentries

417 DPS off the guns with Antimatter, 391 DPS tank with a T2 armor rep. i have a Centus X-type on mine that puts it to 616 DPS tanked.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-01-11 02:41:20 UTC
If you are going to spend a wad of cash on something to be massively OP for high sec PvE, why not just get the ship that is massively OP for null sec PvE while you're at it? The T3 cruiser.

Drop that billion isk for a Nestor on a Tengu and you can solo The Maze 10/10 combat site. There is certainly no high sec PvE short of Incursions that will even dent your shields.

Then you can refit, go explore and hack sites, cloak up and run amok in low or null sec, even act as a fleet booster if you want to run PvE with friends. With something like the Tengu, you can even switch between missiles and turrets.
There can be more to PvE than just minimizing the time you do it, and more than L4's for content in this game.

Having said that- why wouldn't you just go with a faction BS? The Rattlesnake is pretty much the new Ishtar for AFK grinding. I tried one out and it was hilariously OP with just T2 fittings.


Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2016-01-11 06:32:59 UTC
IMO get a Caldari BS 1 and use Nightmare if you feel like using Amarr BS skill and lasers. If you aren't missioning in Sansha/BR-heavy regions, then anything from Gallente ship line will be better, I suppose.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Daku Otsito
Otsito Response Team
#13 - 2016-01-11 09:40:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Daku Otsito
i have been waiting for this, for 2 YEARS NOW, here have a f****** nestor L4 fit, muhahahahah !

[Nestor, the worst mission runnr evah]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Heat Sink II

Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type EM Ward Field
Pith B-Type Thermal Dissipation Field
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Improved Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Energy Locus Coordinator I


Curator II x5



it will run l4s , yes sir it will, but may bob have mercy on your soul if you don't have full tank and fitting skills
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-01-11 13:35:34 UTC
Nightmare, Navy geddon/apoc way better than baddon. Nestor is just not that great for missioning.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Altair Taurus
#15 - 2016-01-11 15:34:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Taurus
As I said: if you plan to mission in Amarr space - get Nightmare, if you plan to mission in different empires - get Rattlesnake or Barghest. There is no need to train Marauders or pick up T1/faction battleships when pirate hulls are relatively cheap now and they outperform T1/faction hulls by a large margin.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#16 - 2016-01-13 02:08:30 UTC
If you decide to stick with amarr ships for now, get a navy apoc, abadon isn't great for missions.
Ardevealca
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-01-13 12:54:18 UTC
I am roleplaying soe faction and what is the best fit for Nestor for level four missions? I know that it is not the best choice, but I am not trying to maximize my income. Just enjoying the SOE ship collection. I cannot fly it yet, but I will be able soon.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#18 - 2016-01-13 14:38:59 UTC
Ardevealca wrote:
I am roleplaying soe faction and what is the best fit for Nestor for level four missions? I know that it is not the best choice, but I am not trying to maximize my income. Just enjoying the SOE ship collection. I cannot fly it yet, but I will be able soon.

I would never condone the usage of a nestor, lv4 missions in particular. But since you're an RPer you're beyond saving anyways. So i give you the Nostromo

[Nestor, Nostromo]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Federation Navy Drone Damage Amplifier
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Power Diagnostic System II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Curator II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5
Bouncer II x5

Engagement range is +-70km. Use the LMJD to get range, deploy drones of choice (All of them can hit, to varying degrees of effectiveness, at 70km) and kill. This fit even has a little bit of headroom should your fitting skills not be quite up to scratch. It's also perfectly safe as well since no lv4 mission has ships that can stop your LMJD and you have an align time (At max skills) of 6.6 seconds. So when the sh*t hits the fan, just pop your LMJD and GTFO.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Ginnie
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-01-13 20:20:26 UTC
I like the Napoc...for level 4 missions works well. I used to use an Abby, but they shafted the armor resistance bonuses a while ago :(

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#20 - 2016-01-13 21:27:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
[Abaddon, TPOGP]
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Ammatar Navy Heat Sink

100MN Afterburner II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II
Large Energy Locus Coordinator II

Oh god.
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