EVE General Discussion

You mean there is absolutely no way to keep track of the alts on an account? This is a"computer" game right? Computers can do an amazing number of things these days limited only by the programmers ability.

Failsafes: do multiple accounts share the same email? Share the same pay source/credit card? Have the same IP?

KR is not Bounty and I hope that Bounty just goes away the isk for standings route.

Really you need to realize why we need Kill Rights.


Low-Sec is not null. The ability to kill pilots is not allowed in empire space. Low-sec is not governed by Concord. The empires just allow players to roam in this space without navies or concord. They leave it upto pilots to govern themselves and small guns that are not adequate in removing the threat. I have no problem with this.


The pilots that go into low-sec need ramifications of retaliation. If this is a short cut or you are using this space corps/pirates that kill you should not have recourse done on them. We as pilots should be able to kill without loosing our SS . The lose of ship goods and pod can not be rectified by a one kill but its an act of war aggression. I as a miner or moon goo or trader do not have the skills or desire to act upon this war aggression should be able to setup a contract . This contract should allow me not allow pirates to run low sec like null sec. The Empires should allow for a war aggression on the pirate corp.

I will restate NPC players should not be able to shoot players. We can not shoot them them. If the NPC players vventure in low sec or null they should get a pop up of ill advisement

You can't use an alt on the same account, obviously. So it would have to be seperate accounts, which almost everyone in the game have already, wether it's an alt trained in hauling, mining, trading, science, mission running, combat et.c.

Also, same pay source doesn't really work since you can use PLEX easily, or simply register one account on your VISA, and the other on your Mastercard or any other payment option you prefer. Easiest of course is using the PLEX.

As for the IP, how difficult is it to use a proxy, or simply use a seperate computer or laptop. Are they going to bar you from playing without knowing if it's your 2nd account, your neighbour, or your friend who is simply visiting and connected on your network?

Like I said, using alts is the whole reason why it's so easily exploitable.

Also, since bounty system is nothing but an information board where you can see who has a bounty and not, it should simply be renamed to "Infamy information board". Especially since you can take no action against the player with a bounty unless you suicidegank them in highsec, or chase them into low and null. A true bounty would be targetting a specific player, with killrights, to claim the bounty.

That is where kill rights are a step ahead.

Setting the exploit and alts aside for a minute.

Someone has a bounty or a killright on them. Someone who are interested in hunting bounties will go to the bounty office, pick up a contract and then have kill rights on the person with the bounty wether it's in null, low or high sec. Targetted person will off course be able to open fire back on the bounty hunter, on sight... however he does not know who the bounty hunter is until they show up as flashing red in local / overview.

That is what bounty hunting or taking kill rights contracts should be aimed at. You take the contract and risk being shot down yourself in the process once you engage the target. Once destroyed, or podkilled, you claim the contract and the reward.

A different question would be if multiple people should be allowed to take a contract. Chasing down a target that flies with friends in low and null would be pretty tough if you are alone. Could 2-3 people take the same contract, fly in a squad/fleet and the reward being distributed between all players in the fleet whom also have the contract ?

Either way...

I think we all sorta agree on how we'd like to see it, picking up the contract for a person wether it's for a bounty or a kill right, in order to claim a reward for shooting them down.

The problem still is the exploiting side of it.

That's a good idea. A lot of the problem behind kill rights is that tracking down any particular victim takes a lot of effort and isn't really an efficient use of your time. If a vigilante can buy up a collection of kill rights for a few quid, they're far more likely to come across a potential victim as they're out roaming around. And when they're sitting in a paper-tanked tempest waiting for the next victim to show up, that makes them a perfect target.

Ideally, the original seller would get a notification when the target is eliminated that included any relevant killmails. No doubt this would soothe their wounded pride -- and maybe prompt a donation...

If this catches on, killright prices rise. If it doesn't, killright prices fall until it becomes a more reasonable enterprise. Either way, it's an improvement on the current system.

Absolutely great idea - when can we see it?

There should never be a pod kill right if they didn't pod you, ever. Every person who helped kill you is on the mail so the right should be transferable, one way, once. Some guy kills you and you cant kill him back, or dont want to, or whatever, you give or sell the kill right. once. to one person.

so for a KM with lets say 6 destroyers on a hulk, you could sell or transfer each of the 6 rights once, to 1-6 people.

Lets say they podded you. You could sell or transfer each of the rights once, but this time for rights to POD. (There will usually be less people on a pod mail.)