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Ruined Hoarder
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Ghengis Tia
Ghengis Tia Corp
#1 - 2016-01-12 05:04:13 UTC
Just got back after 4+ years, and all my Hoarders are worthless. Instead of being the only decent looking Industrial, it is now just a stinking ammo hauler. I've probably got a half dozen or more Hoarders spread between my toons, and I've got to scrap them all.

The Hoarder has now 7+ cargo ammo capacity as a Mammoth (41k vs 5.5k), but is a smaller ship. How does that happen?? It only has a 500 m3 normal cargohold, and you can't use the ammo bay for anything but ammo. What a crock.

Obviously this is some scam perpetrated as a sop to fleet warfare, but gimme a break. How in New Eden did this go down???
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#2 - 2016-01-12 05:11:30 UTC
I think the new specialized haulers are neat. Aye, courier cap boosters like a champ!
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#3 - 2016-01-12 06:29:58 UTC
The changes are detailed here. The basic idea was to give each industrial a role of its own plus having one fast and one large per race.
Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
#4 - 2016-01-12 07:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Leila Meurtrier
Actually, Hoarder is allowed to haul all types of cap boosters, probes and bombs. Not to mention pre-crius compression shenanigans.

Oreb Wing wrote:
Aye, courier cap boosters like a champ!

Please, don't confuse people. You can use specialized bays for general hauling, but not for courier contract.
Ghengis Tia
Ghengis Tia Corp
#5 - 2016-01-12 19:15:28 UTC
The cargohold of the Hoarder was reduced from 4100 to 500, thus totally negating it's originally intended role as an industrial hauler.

This is a lazy way CCP could create a specialty ship by taking an existing ship and changing some code. This just screws the players who owned and operated this ship for its intended purpose.

What's next? Taking battleships and turning them in Quafe trucks??
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-01-12 19:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
I like all these blowhards who come back after years and immediately throw a tantrum about how the game isn't exactly the way it was when they left it, all without ever bothering to learn the full extent of what was done, or why it was done.

Roll

This one is especially precious, because the OP is crying about ships that are so cheap they are basically free.


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The cargohold of the Hoarder was reduced from 4100 to 500, thus totally negating it's originally intended role as an industrial hauler.


And, in return, it was given a MASSIVE ammo bay.

You now have a choice of a smaller, faster, more heavily tanked hauler, a bigger, slower, paper thin hauler, and an assortment of haulers with reasonably good agility and tank characteristics along with comparatively MASSIVE specialized bays.

Whereas before, you had the Iteron V, and if you flew anything else you were stupid.

Put your big boy underoos on, sell your hoarders, and buy wreathes or mammoths.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Ghengis Tia
Ghengis Tia Corp
#7 - 2016-01-12 19:46:42 UTC
Well said.

I realized that the game does change and I should expect that.

I'll get some Amarr Hauler that looks like a pimp wagon with the white and gold, put my 50 male dancers in it, and get in the entertainment business.....
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#8 - 2016-01-12 20:26:29 UTC
Ghengis Tia wrote:
The cargohold of the Hoarder was reduced from 4100 to 500, thus totally negating it's originally intended role as an industrial hauler.

This is a lazy way CCP could create a specialty ship by taking an existing ship and changing some code. This just screws the players who owned and operated this ship for its intended purpose.

What's next? Taking battleships and turning them in Quafe trucks??


A T2 cargo fit Redeemer can hold 5521 units of Quafe Zero and jump to cynos to get around easily!
Sugilite
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-01-13 18:54:53 UTC
Ghengis Tia wrote:
I've probably got a half dozen or more Hoarders


A half dozen sounds like so much more than just saying 'six.'
Isaac Armer
The Soup Kitchen
#10 - 2016-01-13 20:48:28 UTC
You came back to an MMO after four years and are complaining that something is different?

https://i.imgur.com/SEpCU.webm
Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
#11 - 2016-01-14 14:10:51 UTC
Leila Meurtrier wrote:
Actually, Hoarder is allowed to haul all types of cap boosters, probes and bombs. Not to mention pre-crius compression shenanigans.

Oreb Wing wrote:
Aye, courier cap boosters like a champ!

Please, don't confuse people. You can use specialized bays for general hauling, but not for courier contract.


Unless I'm mistaken, in a courier contract the items can be moved in whatever method - or piecemeal - as you wish, so log as every item is at the end destination upon completion.

And

Get a sense of humor. I'll put a courier contract up in Jita so you can pick one up.