Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I note you still haven't answered the questions.

I'm guessing you either can’t answer or simply won’t. The answer is 67,200 units of ferrogel which will clock in at 1m^3/unit so you’ll need to make 6 trips in that blockade runner.

This is why people do not use blockade runners for doing reaction farms or moon mining. You use a JF or a freighter if your POS are all in 1 system. So moon goo is not a cloaking issue.

Teckos
I would respond in length to the hilarious thought of taking freighters on null sec moon goo roams. But alas, that would be almost as hopelessly off-topic as your next to last post. Let it simply be noted that I was not speaking about the transportation of final product which is generally be done in an outpost system for easy station access. You can do the crazily dangerous mad dash* from station to POS forcefield in anything you like. But nice straw man. Again.

*Note that this is not irony (which is the same as goldy and bronzy except made out of iron). It is that other thing.

Edit
He is actually speaking of dscan. Or the ability of cloaked ships to merrily check out various sites at their leisure for the odd moments of any week an afk cloaky camper might actually be looking for a target. Check out, ponder, consider, and attack, or not, depending on whatever whimsy happens to rule at the time.

I don't really care what the Devs target:

*Remove motive for mining and ratting (give every EvE pilot a fixed monthly isk stipend so they don't have to bother grinding sites unless as a free choice).

*Remove afk (by introducing a mechanism that requires player action for a cloak to remain active).

*Remove afk cloaky camping as an established multiple account entitlement (by introducing remotely controlled afk cloaky camping drones that duplicate cloaky camper baseline capabilities with a scram/gun, or with a scram/cyno. Allow hotseat toggle between active pilot and drone(s) controlled remotely, where drones are controlled as if they were a ship. In effect doing away with multiple account and hardware requirements to make afk cloaky camping more player friendly).

*Introduce compensating mechanisms to null sec that exist elsewhere (Sov control of gates. Powerful and affordable cyno inhibitors)

Or all of the above.

Morrigan
Xcom is talking about afk cloaked ships where players might be ATK at least several times a week you mean. The implicit threat/pretty big psychological effect afk cloaky camping has depends on the pilot being ATK several times a week and preferably once a day after downtime.

AFK cloaky camping's implicit threat decreases if dscan could only be done uncloaked. A cautious pilot would catch the decloaked dscanning ship on dscan. The alternative would be the time consuming effort of inspecting anons individually while cloaked. Which in turn would decrease the frequency of afk cloaky campers becoming ATK and thus reduce the implicit threat afk cloaky camping represents.

Morrigan
Any imaginary nerf to scouts is all in the players' minds. There is for example no problem speed tanking while dscanning. It merely is an issue for those not wanting to appear on dscan while dscanning. Ie afk cloaky campers that do not want it known they are on their twice weekly ATK "perhaps I will pvp, perhaps I will not, it all depends on what it feels like in my soft and delicate typing fingers"

I'm glad you have finally caught up. That is the exact problem with cloaking. Its tactics backed by game mechanics and not player intelligence. Such a game mechanic should then have a counter, it doesn't. Ergo the need for one.

And leave the personal agendas guesses and childish name calling behind. Makes you sound like a little teenage girl.

You have the chicken and the egg mixed up, probably deliberately because you are dishonest.

Cloaks are the counter to the free, instant, untouchable intel that is local.

I'm honestly not sure if your trolling me or genuinely think I'm being dishonest. I'm going to assume your not trolling and just give you the simple answer.

Local can't be the counter to cloaking because cloaks work in all areas of space. If local was the counter then cloaks would stop working where local didn't exist.

I see what you mean. But we are still left with the issue that cloaks on themselves are unbalanced excluding local from the equation. If you isolate local as a unbalanced feature then yes, cloaking is used to counter it. But I believe that using a unbalanced feature to counter local isn't a good game balance.

It's fairly obvious that the blops are dying in drops and that blockade runners are dying in transit.

They are perfectly killable.

Sure aren't your selfish, broken ideas that will never see the light of day.

It starts with fixing your entitled attitude, by the way. You have no right whatsoever to be free of uncertainty in PvE gameplay. Ever. And that goes double for nullsec.

The game isn't broken because you're bad at it.

Deal with it.