EVE Technology Lab

*looks at siggy's codebase needing major rewrite*

*looks at need to also switch to crest for the location tracking*

*looks at real life job to create a system handling 1 million cellular modem devices reporting data remotely in next few months*

*cries*

Removing the IGB will sure have a benefit for CCP in the sense that they do not need to worry about people "hacking" the game or other eve players with a website. It will free resources, for sure. Considering MANY players have a tablet or a smartphone with a rather large screen, it is the right way to go.

However, I personally expect CCP to not just replace the IGB with CREST functionality, but to provide features that make me WANT to switch. Some features will obviously require you to run the EvE client (e.g., location, "showinfo", market stuff, ...), but others may not (read and ANSWERE eve mail, modify the skill queue, etc...).

Communication with the community about those features is key! Make a focus group, hold a chat, gather some developers together on slack, etc.... Because if you lose your 3rd-party developers (which are the main reasons that large groups of people can enjoy the game together, and not just solo), then you will eventually lose your players.

TL;DR: If they (CCP) kill the IGB, they need to provide KILLER FEATURES for CREST to make the change worth it. Communication is key.

I'll be honest, i do not have the overview to understand what exactly CREST does, and what the possiblities are in the future.
However....

People that can't/won't alt-tab must be a minority... I mean really, alt-tabbing is one of the most beneficial thing you can do while using a computer. I could not imagine a world where alt-tabbing was something i never used, it's only going to limit your abilities, if you abstain from using such an usefull feature of the windows eco system.
Please don't limit your features, because of such people :)

... Oh and also keep up the good work

Edit: So i just read up on CREST... My point still stands.. Who are those people

If CCP replace used functionality of the IGB with crest data that is available in reasonable usable time intervals, I do not have a problem with removing the IGB.
It is better to be able to use proper website in modern day browsers out of game and have the same functionality then have your website need to function on the ingame browser.

And CCP is already showing that they are going to provide functionality that is going to be lost with the IGB on other resources.
The recent CharacterLocation resource shows that.
So yeah if they are going to keep up the functionality I am all for replacing the ingame browser actually!

But please keep the IGB until the needed data is available over other methods :)

What would be harder to replace are probably functionalities like opening mail windows, sending fleet invites and such by pressing a button in a browser.
It would be nice if the client would just get an interface that you could connect to from an application on the same computer to execute those actions.

Might be a good idea to even make them http post/get calls to actually enable browser websites to call those with simple cross domain ajax requests to localhost.
(Pretty sure that would require the client to set that Access-Control-Allow-Origin header
and you could like specifiy in the local clients settings it self a list of allowed websites, or pop up a message when a website that is not in the list connects for the first time.
Ofc answer that first call without the calling website in the header, just if the user clicks yes, have the website added to the header the next time.


Sure website will need to update the way they access data, but that should not be that hard.


Well that would be my ideas to that matter :)
From some one who just prepared to actually create a website for the ingame browser and on his research hit this forum entry.

Couple of things regularly used:-

• Being able to visit a site, such as one containing alliance fits, click on a fit, click buy all. (lazy?)
• Being able to use [custom] sites for finding [alliance] contracts and setting up logistics contracts
• dScan tools which allow you to quickly click on the ship-type to pull up the description
• KOS checkers used in Provi, which allow you to click on a pilot/corp/alliance to quickly set standings, especially the ones that check multiple pilots in local.

And i just want to be able to easily open those cute GIFs in a game window during the gang roam >.<

CCP, If you need some money to update the IGB, start a "Go Fund Me" and I'll give you some cash. If you want to know how much we love it, give us a survey. I don't get to chat with CSM members much, but I will do a survey.