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Least used T1 Cruiser/Battleship

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Amana Tsasa
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-08 19:22:56 UTC
Now, Im not asking which is the worst per-say, just which do you guys think is the least used over-all of the T1 (Non-Faction, Non-pirate, Non-special) Cruisers and Battleships, I would think probably the Auguror, and the Scythe for the cruisers, but I haven't gotten to Battleships yet, so I wouldn't be able to make a clear determination on those
Rancyin
Balls Deep Inc.
#2 - 2012-01-08 19:25:50 UTC
Amana Tsasa wrote:
Now, Im not asking which is the worst per-say, just which do you guys think is the least used over-all of the T1 (Non-Faction, Non-pirate, Non-special) Cruisers and Battleships, I would think probably the Auguror, and the Scythe for the cruisers, but I haven't gotten to Battleships yet, so I wouldn't be able to make a clear determination on those


You wont see many Scythe's knocking about. thats a T1 Minmatar cruiser just so you know.
Kale Eledar
Venerated Industries
#3 - 2012-01-08 19:26:45 UTC
I would say the Hyperion for battleships, simply because many believe it is vastly inferior to cheaper ships at the same roles and it having odd bonuses and a high cost.

I, however, love the ship. There are a few things it is damn good at.

First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

Dyaven
#4 - 2012-01-08 22:24:43 UTC
Battleships are pretty well represented imo, Hyperion I feel is definitely the least flown but it's not nearly as rare as the Scythe, Auguror or Exequror.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#5 - 2012-01-09 04:28:57 UTC
Augoror. I have seen nubs mining in Scythes because it can fit mining lasers. The Augoror basically can't and is replaced by mining geddons.
Kraschyn Thek'athor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-09 15:09:42 UTC
In the Battlecruiser department, Prophecies.
A wonderful aesthetic ship with no use except obvious-bait > neut-plattform > stealth-bomber targeting practice vessel.


- Punisher, same problem in the frig-segment.
- Inquisitor
- Hybrid armed Caldari Frigs (since Kestrel is tooo nice)
- Moa is a good candidate for a rare T1 cruiser

I would call the Rokh more rarely seen than the Hyperion.



But for the T1 Cruiser department, I would say it is easier to say which Cruisers are worth flying.
Arbitrator, Vexor, Thorax, Osprey, Caracal (the Level 1/2 Mission Beast), Blackbird, Rupture, Stabber

A reworking of the T1 Cruisers would be nice in some way. The Omen is a beast to fit for newer pilots and the Maller is a DPS failure.



Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-09 20:49:50 UTC
There's really no excuse as to why so many of the T1 cruisers stink. I feel for newer Amarr players especially, with the Arbitrator being so specialized. It makes even less sense when Eve loses dozens of potential players who jack in the game after a few months. I can only imagine how dispiriting it must feel to be told by a more experienced player that the Omen you think looks awesome blows, and that you shoud ''train Minmatar'' instead.

@CCP: take charge and change some ******* ship attributes
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#8 - 2012-01-09 20:53:22 UTC
I'm gonna go with Augoror and Rokh. I haven't seen either one in space in a long, long time.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.

Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-09 21:43:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
I think it's probably a toss up between the Celestis, Augoror and Bellicose, although the Omen is quite a rare sight as well.
I can't actually recall seeing an Aug in space for a few years.

I was also going to say the Exequror, but you occasionally see them bumbling around Gallente space like I did a couple of hours ago.


BS wise, you don't see many Typhoons around these days, I think I've probably seen more Rohks recently, in high sec at least.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-01-10 01:05:41 UTC
Celestis

I've never seen one being flown. Ever.

I lied :o

Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-10 02:35:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrett
Drew Solaert wrote:
Celestis

I've never seen one being flown. Ever.



XG in QCATS flys them on occasion. I fit up a few recently with damps because of the masses of T3 sniper BC. It has been useful on a few occasions for making those guys useless. EDIT: My KB says I am on 6 KM with my Celestis recently...

I also flew one last night. We jumped into a superior (not by much) force in a plex. They had equal number cruisers + a BC + 2 Blackbirds. I was actually able to damp one of the BB into uselessness, so he warped off. Our folks killed the other BB and a few other things, and we held the field. I was targeted by lots of drones and the drake, and got to use smartbombs for the first time ever. WOW. Bye bye drones. Suprisingly, combat log also showed that I popped a few of the drake's volleys with them. It also made a cool noise and had funky lights. I had to warp out eventually, but made it out safe. I didnt get on any KMs, but it was fun all the same. Learned smartbombs + RSDs eat cap like a mother. Need to refit a capbooster somehow without gimping my shield tank.

Would fly again. Blink

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Nazir Sheik Muhammad
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-01-10 03:26:30 UTC
It certainly was the rokh, until the much-anticipated hybrid buff got everyone excited enough to try one out again. Aside from the hype though, I haven't read anything spectacular about their new performance and I certainly haven't seen it myself. Then again, I don't participate in brosec fleet warfare so perhaps i'm missing a thing or two.

At present I would nominate the typhoon as the least utilized. Despite the fact it's ungodly cheap and effective at what it does, what it does isn't very popular and not many pilots capable of flying one well actually do so as they have the sp (and usually isk) to fly around in far more expensive ships like the mach.

As far as cruisers go, it's a really tough call. There are a lot of horrific cruisers out there that not many people bother flying. I guess i'd have to agree the aug is cheif among the fail.
Mardero
#13 - 2012-01-10 03:41:46 UTC
I use the Rokh for hauling high value/low volume cargo in hisec.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-01-10 04:55:15 UTC
I've flown mining Scythes, so that's probably not it. The Bellicose is fairly rare but has its uses however, same with the Celestis. Augoror might be a good candidate especially if it can't fit mining lasers properly. Also, who the heck suggested the Typhoon? I fly 'em on a regular basis (they're cheap and hit the 100/150 mark pretty much on the nose for hole closing).
Others: Inquisitor, Breacher

As to the "sucky Amarr ships" department: I agree. The Punisher needs a better bonus than cap use (laser damage or tracking would both be good options), same with the Maller and Proph, while Omen needs to stop being so damn flimsy! (Seriously...you can get better mileage out of a Minmatar rustbucket!)

My idea would be to just drop laser cap use bonuses on platforms without a RoF or optimal bonus (so Zealot, Apoc, and the LCM on the Legion would keep theirs, but all others would just go away, to be replaced by a buff of Controlled Bursts to 15%/level.
Eta Carinai
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-01-10 06:23:29 UTC
Rancyin wrote:
Amana Tsasa wrote:
Now, Im not asking which is the worst per-say, just which do you guys think is the least used over-all of the T1 (Non-Faction, Non-pirate, Non-special) Cruisers and Battleships, I would think probably the Auguror, and the Scythe for the cruisers, but I haven't gotten to Battleships yet, so I wouldn't be able to make a clear determination on those


You wont see many Scythe's knocking about. thats a T1 Minmatar cruiser just so you know.


That and the Hyperion.
Eta Carinai
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-01-10 06:26:57 UTC
Kale Eledar wrote:
I would say the Hyperion for battleships, simply because many believe it is vastly inferior to cheaper ships at the same roles and it having odd bonuses and a high cost.

I, however, love the ship. There are a few things it is damn good at.



The Hyperion looks like a beast next to the Abbadon. But The Hyperion is a ultimate fail because its bonuses count for nothing. It is too costly to use hybrid weaponry and use armor reps because there is not as much armor rep like there used to be for he Myrmidon and Hyperion. Fitting it for other roles suites the ship but will always be inferior.

Maybe CCP will revamp the Hyperion or make a nouther bs that will phase out what the Hyperion was ment for.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#17 - 2012-01-10 06:42:46 UTC
Dyaven wrote:
Battleships are pretty well represented imo, Hyperion I feel is definitely the least flown but it's not nearly as rare as the Scythe, Auguror or Exequror.


Exec is actually quite popular with starting players in the gallente starter corps - gets flown on combat days as a logi, gets used as a hauler by trials accounts and fitted with all manner of terrible mixed tanks and a salvager in the highs to bumble through level 1s and 2s.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-01-10 06:58:17 UTC
Auguror seems to be pulling into the lead.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-01-10 07:27:20 UTC
from time to time is see celestisis and exequrors, flown mostly by noobs in starting systems augerors not so much.

I used to fly scythes just to fly scythes not because they were good for anything.

Inquisitor
Maulus
Augerors,
Keres
Retribution
Exequror navy issue
Scythe Navy Issue

Procurer

in no particular order.

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.

Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#20 - 2012-01-10 08:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
There has to be a way to look it up, tho I don't know how.
Do Augoror's get used like Osprey? as a cheap throw away ship? I mean couldn't a corp get and fit a few and use them to quik charge caps? for hella cheep?


I put my cash on the Bellicose. what the hell dose it even do? I can't even tell ya with out looking, at least the others named so far popped up in my head as doing some thing kinda usfull.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

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