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Why not accrue time where characters' training queues are inactive?
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#21 - 2016-01-11 19:08:41 UTC
Isaac Armer wrote:
Playing devil's advocate, if a core tenant of EVE is that every action has a consequence, shouldn't there be a negative consequence (not gaining SPs) to forgetting to click apply?



If you were to gain less SP, that's a consequence, if just a lesser-not-want-to-ragequit one.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2016-01-11 19:26:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Isaac Armer wrote:
Playing devil's advocate, if a core tenant of EVE is that every action has a consequence, shouldn't there be a negative consequence (not gaining SPs) to forgetting to click apply?

With this playerbase, that viewpoint isn't really Devil's Advocate. :P



Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:
If you were to gain less SP, that's a consequence, if just a lesser-not-want-to-ragequit one.

--Gadget

Good idea. Maybe something like what I said on post #17 except instead of tracking your attributes, it counts you as having zero bonus attributes including the allocate-able attributes, and you just have the base 17 for training on time you missed.

CCP could also make such a system but rather than present it to the playerbase, use it as a retention tool that GMs can selectively hand out to players who complain they will quit due to loss of training time.

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Alexis Nightwish
#23 - 2016-01-11 20:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexis Nightwish
The best solution is to make is so you never have to pause the queue. Implants, jumpclones, remapping, whatever. Nothing should require the pause button. Hell, if you wanted to train on another character on the same account (w/o MCT), you should just be able to click apply on that other character's skill queue and get a popup warning you that Character X's training will pause.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#24 - 2016-01-11 21:15:03 UTC
+1

Saw this on Reddit and thought it was a good idea.

The reply above highlights why, in the absence of removing the need to pause the skill queue.
Kalden Rollard
New Eden Trade Guild
#25 - 2016-01-12 11:00:59 UTC
Alexis Nightwish wrote:
The best solution is to make is so you never have to pause the queue. Implants, jumpclones, remapping, whatever. Nothing should require the pause button. Hell, if you wanted to train on another character on the same account (w/o MCT), you should just be able to click apply on that other character's skill queue and get a popup warning you that Character X's training will pause.


Y'know, that's probably an even better alternative - would there be any problems if it were made *impossible* to pause the skill queue? Like, when you first log onto a new toon he is training some skill by default and from that point on you can only change what's being trained?

I'll second the point r.e. alts - it's an absolute pain in the keister to have to change character every time you want to transfer your training.
Alexis Nightwish
#26 - 2016-01-12 22:25:23 UTC
Kalden Rollard wrote:
Alexis Nightwish wrote:
The best solution is to make is so you never have to pause the queue. Implants, jumpclones, remapping, whatever. Nothing should require the pause button. Hell, if you wanted to train on another character on the same account (w/o MCT), you should just be able to click apply on that other character's skill queue and get a popup warning you that Character X's training will pause.


Y'know, that's probably an even better alternative - would there be any problems if it were made *impossible* to pause the skill queue? Like, when you first log onto a new toon he is training some skill by default and from that point on you can only change what's being trained?

I'll second the point r.e. alts - it's an absolute pain in the keister to have to change character every time you want to transfer your training.

Exactly. If for some reason you *really* need to stop training on a character (I think this needs to be done to sell a character on the bazaar), just empty the skill queue and hit apply.

CCP approaches problems in one of two ways: nudge or cludge

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