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Raven Fit Help - Newbish player asking - level 4 mission

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Thyphuss
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-01-09 18:47:54 UTC
Hello every one.

I have som problem getting a decent amount of damage out of my Raven. ( 363 atm) so when i try to run Level 4 missions they recharge their shield to full health before the 2nd salvo hits.

Any help would be welcome

My loadout are as follows

High
6x arbalest cruise launcher 1 - Caledari Navy Scourge Cruise missile

Mid

Heavy Capacity Booster 2 - 800 caps
Shield booster amplifier 2
Thermal dissipation amplifier 2
Adeptive invulnerability field 1
X-large shield booster 1
EM ward amplifier 2
Domination 100MN afterburner

Low

3x Moun Coil bolt array 1
co-processor 1
Damage Control 1

Rigs

2x Large warhead rigor catalyst 1
large warhed calefaction catalyst 1

My skill training que is as follows atm

cruise missile lvl 3
weapon upgrade 4
weapon upgrade 5

As mention before.. Any advise would be gratefull recived.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-01-09 21:36:15 UTC
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#3 - 2016-01-09 21:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
(e: the above is a fun bit of EVE history - read about it here! P)

Seems to look good, but honestly Ravens (and Caldari) aren't my forte. However, skills, skills, skills will improve things considerably, and, what you could try in the meantime, are Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers - lower paper DPS but better application!

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Asinae Antaelis
#4 - 2016-01-09 22:06:07 UTC
Hello,
Unlike the Drake, the Raven is' t bonuses for kinetic so be sure to use the correct missile type...
Be sure to rise the BS caldari skill to 4 also
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#5 - 2016-01-09 22:11:26 UTC
It took me a minute to figure out wtf was posted there...
I do remember the other thread though, funny as **** it was Big smile

@ Thyphuss

You need Balistic Controls in the bottom. At least 3 imo.
Mids, You could dump 1 of the cap boosters and probably the after burner for now. Mission specific hardners and a target painter will probly work better for you.
Arbalest launchers are just fine until you can fit T2 or afford Navy launchers.

You probably need to top off a lot of skills too. Missile support skills and the BS hull skill make a huge difference.
I might suggest that you do level 3 missions until you get better skills for the Raven. Faster 3's will pay better than slow level 4's.

Also: Insure that ship! Losing your first BS is kind of devastating.
Jace Varus
Lemur Appreciation Society
#6 - 2016-01-10 00:22:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jace Varus
Use ballistic control systems in the lows, but keep the damage control. You should use about 3 ballistic control systems.

Also, try to train for the T2 missile launchers.

EDIT:

This is a good drake fit

https://o.smium.org/loadout/58356
Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#7 - 2016-01-10 07:57:56 UTC
you want caldari battleship to 4, tech 2 bcu's, at least one target painter, and read eve survival to find out which dmg type the rats are most vulnerable too. you could upgrade to a Navy Raven which will increase your dmg and dmg application, also tech 2 fury cruise missiles make a big difference to your dps.

As for your fit maybe upgrade to a pseudo-electron damage control, drop the adaptive invuln field for a target painter, get one of each hardener probably worth it to pay the extra for pith c types because they're quite cheap, then just swap the hardeners for missions depending on what eve survival says incoming dmg will be. I would even drop the cap booster and put in an extra target painter, swap to a pith b large shield booster and just pulse it as needed so you don't cap out.

[Raven Navy Issue, Raven Navy Issue fit]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I

Pith B-Type Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Thermal Dissipation Amplifier
100MN Afterburner II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-01-10 08:05:49 UTC
Thyphuss wrote:
Hello every one.

I have som problem getting a decent amount of damage out of my Raven. ( 363 atm) so when i try to run Level 4 missions they recharge their shield to full health before the 2nd salvo hits.

Any help would be welcome

My loadout are as follows

High
6x arbalest cruise launcher 1 - Caledari Navy Scourge Cruise missile <--- Make sure you use the correct damage type missiles

Mid

Heavy Capacity Booster 2 - 800 caps
Shield booster amplifier 2
Thermal dissipation amplifier 2
Adeptive invulnerability field 1 <----- Don't omni tank. Use hardeners to the incoming damage type
X-large shield booster 1 <---- Use Meta 4 at least
EM ward amplifier 2
Domination 100MN afterburner

Low

3x Moun Coil bolt array 1 <---- Train for T2 ASAP
co-processor 1
Damage Control 1 <---- Train for T2 ASAP

Rigs

2x Large warhead rigor catalyst 1
large warhed calefaction catalyst 1

My skill training que is as follows atm

cruise missile lvl 3
weapon upgrade 4
weapon upgrade 5

As mention before.. Any advise would be gratefull recived.


Too many trolls on the forms so it's hard to tell who's real... I think the OP could be an alt troll as well but I have nothing to do so I'll reply.
Well my suggestions are indicated by arrows <-------
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#9 - 2016-01-10 13:12:40 UTC
IIshira wrote:

Too many trolls on the forms so it's hard to tell who's real... I think the OP could be an alt troll as well but I have nothing to do so I'll reply.
Well my suggestions are indicated by arrows <-------




Generally, a good 'troll indicator' is if the poster is in an NPC corp.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

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Moonlit Raid
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-01-10 15:26:27 UTC
[Raven, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II Or co-processor if you need it.

X-Large Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Micro Jump Drive Panic button, getting shot up, use this and land 100km away.
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


The mjd can also be used to cover long distances between gates without slowboating, get the angles right and in 2 jumps you'll be on the gate.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.

Altair Taurus
#11 - 2016-01-10 16:23:04 UTC
Invest some cash and buy Barghest!