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Did the Visibility skill change?
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-09 16:30:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Droidster
I thought Visibility was how far away someone could be and still see your orders. A skill of 5 meant that anybody in the region could see your orders.

However, looking at the skill just now it reads completely different:

Quote:
Visibility

Skill at acquiring products remotely. Each level of skill increases the range your remote buy orders are effective to from their origin station. Level 1 allows for the placing of remote buy orders with a range limited to the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for a full regional range.


--- SNIP ---- Is this some change that occurred? --- SNIP ----

UPDATE

I found an old description of this skill, and this is how it originally read:

Quote:

Visibility

Skill at promoting your product effectively. Each level increases a remote sell order’s radius of effect from origin. Level 1 allows for range within same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for a full regional range.


So, it did change. Is there any way to find out which patch changed it (short of reading every single patch note)?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2016-01-09 16:36:34 UTC
I thought your orders were always visible to everyone on the market, but their effective reach was limited unless you trained that skill? No idea what's what if they've changed it, though.

Not sure I can offer any other input, sorry!

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Fin Udan
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-01-09 16:46:17 UTC
Droidster wrote:
I thought Visibility was how far away someone could be and still see your orders. A skill of 5 meant that anybody in the region could see your orders.

However, looking at the skill just now it reads completely different:

Quote:
Visibility

Skill at acquiring products remotely. Each level of skill increases the range your remote buy orders are effective to from their origin station. Level 1 allows for the placing of remote buy orders with a range limited to the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for a full regional range.


Is this some change that occurred?


When you create a local buy order you can set a range up to 40 jumps. This determines how far away people can see your orders not visibility. Visibility increases the range of REMOTE buys order which can be set by way of the procurement skill.

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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#4 - 2016-01-09 16:48:14 UTC
Fin Udan wrote:
When you create a local buy order you can set a range up to 40 jumps. This determines how far away people can see your orders not visibility. Visibility increases the range of REMOTE buys order which can be set by way of the procurement skill.


Ay ay, what a clusterfrack. I think market skills could use a bit of a rework.
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-01-09 16:55:18 UTC
Fin Udan wrote:
Droidster wrote:
I thought Visibility was how far away someone could be and still see your orders. A skill of 5 meant that anybody in the region could see your orders.

However, looking at the skill just now it reads completely different:

Quote:
Visibility

Skill at acquiring products remotely. Each level of skill increases the range your remote buy orders are effective to from their origin station. Level 1 allows for the placing of remote buy orders with a range limited to the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for a full regional range.


Is this some change that occurred?


When you create a local buy order you can set a range up to 40 jumps. This determines how far away people can see your orders not visibility. Visibility increases the range of REMOTE buys order which can be set by way of the procurement skill.


Yeah I can read what it says. I am just saying I remember the skill as doing something different previously and wonder if it got changed in some patch.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#6 - 2016-01-10 03:37:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
IIRC (only going back to 2008) Visibility has always been about how far the remote buy order is effective from the station it is placed in.

From 2006 "Visibility: Skill at acquiring products remotely. Each level of skill increases your remote buy order range. Level 1 allows for the placing of buy orders within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for a full regional range."

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=351951

I did dig this out from 2005 though

"[NOTE: Before the 'Blood' patch, the skill had a wrong description; you may find people that, based in that old description, say that you need Visibility for your orders to be seen on the 'Buy' window. Nope, you can see all orders; this skill only affects the effect range]"

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=200967

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