EVE General Discussion

So, I have an old account but only 5.3 million SP as I've played a month or two here and there for years.
I've come back after a long break and have delved into Exploration. Somehow, this seems exciting and fun, so I'm leveling my skills for Covert Ships etc.

In the meantime, I've been working on practicing Exploration in search of Relic sites. I've run into some snags and have some questions.

#1. Just on a whim I found a Wormhole and decided, "what the hell?" and went into it. I spent about 30 minutes probe scanning the area only to find a gas site and other wormholes. As I was trying to zero in on the other unknown sites, I was one shooted by 4 or 5 NPC ships that came out of nowhere. I was in my pod and apparently didn't bookmark where I came in from. I did some reading to find options and came up with self destruction. While everything I read said you would lose skill points in the SD process, I lost none. IS that a first time freebie or has EVE changed in that regard?

#2. Is it possible to find things other than wormhole everywhere in mid/high sec space? All I'm finding are wormholes all over and I've been down to .5 so far.

#3. I'm about to be able to Inject Cloaking. Thank God! IS it possible to remain cloaked while probing and area? If so, how well does it keep you safe in low sec space from NPC's?

#4. If I'm in an area and discover things like wormholes and such, do they remain there or do these things constantly change locations? In other words, if I discover 2 wormholes and a gas site and I bookmark them, will they remain as being discovered if I go back to that area or does it all get wiped to start over?

Are there any other tips one could give a newbie explorer? Are there particular areas that are easier to find Relic sites?

Thanks all!

3. No NPC's in Relic or Data sites in High, Low or Null Sec.

In wormholes check for pirate faction relics (Sansha, Blood, Angel, ...), all other relic/data sites have strong sleeper rats. Pirate sites will only appear in wh classes 1-3, check with http://wh.pasta.gg/

This is only true of sites with faction names in the name of the site. If it does not say blood this or sepentis that it is a sleeper site and sleeper NPCs will spawn in 5 minutes. This 5 minutes starts the first time someone warp s in and the NPCs will remain there until killed. They are very tough and will destroy a tech 1 exploration ship in seconds. I lost a Tristan in this manner in a .5 security system so I know it can happen. I had scanned down the site (I forget why I was in a Tristan) and decided to get the loot quick. Up until that time I thought only sleeper sites were in null and learn the hard way that is not the case.

In addition to Paranoid Loyd's answer, the gas/relic/data sites can still be found by other players, making them disappear when emptied. Next to that keep in mind that gas sites might contain loot that is illegal in (certain) high-sec systems.

A final tip, always bookmark the wormhole after you got through, as this is the exit to get back to where you came from.

most likely you find ghost site. they do spawn npc and trigger can to explode

Get your Archaeology to at least IV, V is preferable.

Buy Magnate, fit relic rigs, probe launcher, cloak, analyzer, cargo scanner (if you can), microwarp drive and four warp core stabilizers. Skimp on everything except the analyzer IF you can fit a T2. It should be as cheap as possible.

Scan holes. Don't die. Profit.

If you keep your wits about you, not much short of an Astero packing a faction scram plus one other, or a bubbler will get you. Having said that, if and when you do die your loss will be minimal and after you've completed your first site you'll already be in a position to replace your ship a few times over.

Remember to exit and dump cargo between holes, or even between sites if you find quite a few in the same hole. Nothing worse than dying with a full cargohold.

I have 1.5m sp and I make a steady 50-100m a day without really trying doing exactly this. Sometimes more.

Hope that helps.

So why is everything about these tiny ships with low power that demand all of this equipment?
Why not load up a Prophecy or something with all of the slots and CPU power you need?

I'm in a Magnate now but I cant fit both analyzers and cloaking device.

Get more scanning skills and try fitting some scanning rigs. That might do the trick, also, when your probes are at .25AU, playing with the range between the probes (you do this by holding shift) can also get you a few % (only about 5 though, so it won't get you from 68% to 100%)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=463717&p=1 also has some valuable information.