Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Seconded.

Stop dumbing down Eve CCP, This is not WoW! Please leave the refitting mechanics alone!

Signed.

-1 I do not support this petition, change is the nature of survival, and in this case, they are making the change to balance capitals (carriers specially) so that they have less of a swiss army knife role. Because honestly, part of Eve is knowing your enemy before you engage them.

Wormhole life hinges on this ability.

Capital fights necessitate your triage refitting on the fly. Running sites in a Marauder also requires the ability to swap fits every so often. Dreadnaught gameplay would just turn into "hit siege, F1 20 seconds later" with absolutely no nuance.

I get that it's overpowered for Mach fleets, and that's fine. Either buff the counter to Machs (battleships, which have needed buffs since I started playing over two years ago), or make it so you can refit while in "you're on your own mode" (siege, triage, bastion). Yeah, it's also overpowered for super fleets, but supers are eating nerfs as part of the cap rebalance, that's already addressed.

But removing it when you're in "you're on your own mode" is absolutely absurd. It removes a lot of the nuance of that gameplay, and instead just turns into even more mindless F1 mashing.

This was psot the forums, its an place to debate it, talk about, i dont support it ether, will add more game play, due to having disengage for the period, it means people have to fit there ships better, have the rest of the fleet to pick the slack for an minute.

This change doesn't really hinder the masses of caps in Nullsec. What this change affects more than any others, is small capital fights and fights in Wormhole space, where refitting your capital is a necessity due to the limited natures of the fights.

See this recent video of LZHK vs SSC to elaborate on what I am saying.

Not to mention the Nestor would be 100% useless in PvP with this change.

This change will shaft smaller capital brawls where refits are necessary and not to mention, kind of fun.

All CCP have to do is read through this reddit thread.

Most ships without the refit option will be dead within the 60 seconds it would take to de aggro, if they're smaller than a capital.

I too would like to see the refitting kept either untouched or largely similar to what it is now.

I Have never yet been able to make use of it, but it was something I was looking forward to.
With the removal of spider tank carriers that also serve as dps, I don't expect caps will need such a heavy nerf. I also thought refitting was a very nice way for a weaker group to outplay a stronger one.

Not opposed to change, just don't expect to like this one.

I agree, stop dumbing down this game.

thanks.

*signed* There is no foreseeable need to change the refitting mechanic. Make the cap changes first and then we will see if refitting is being abused.

Why make the game even more like World of Warcraft: Spaceships Edition?