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Lv4 and Lv 3 Ship and Fit Questions.
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Sewho
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-06 13:07:41 UTC
It's been about two years since I have played last and such a lot has changed. For Galentte agent 3 and 4 missions are canes still viable and if so what would you recommend as a good fit; should I switch and train up a naga? Also what is a good BS and fit for 4 and 5?

Again thank you for any and all advice, I tried to use battle clinic but ts just one error after another on that site -_-
Pix Severus
Empty You
#2 - 2016-01-06 13:46:39 UTC
I don't really like linking sites like these, as I think coming up with your own fits instead of copying someone else's badfit is better for players in the long run, but some people just need some inspiration so here you go: Osmium

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The Bigpuns
United Standings Improvement Agency
#3 - 2016-01-06 14:26:42 UTC
Do you already have skills from two years ago, or is it a fresh toon?

Cane will do 3's just fine, either with arty or ac's, but it will probably struggle in most 4's.

For level 4's, if you already have trained down this path, then go Machariel, or any marauder.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#4 - 2016-01-06 15:41:40 UTC
Pretty much any combat battlecruiser should do fine for most lv3s as will a Machariel or any BS really. Depending on how you want to run lv4s a Machariel or Barghest is the best currently. Other ships have advantages for things like full clear or salvage/looting. There's also burners that are part of the Lv4 mission pool that require specialized frigate and cruiser fits but they can be declined freely without penalty though they are quite lucrative. I have some fits in the link in my sig.

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A Ingus
Purveyors of Uber Research Valuables and Ships
#5 - 2016-01-06 16:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: A Ingus
Not sure if micro jump drives were in the game two years ago. Probably not. So, you will discover that level 3 missions are super easy now in a sniper combat BC with mmjd, and level 4 missions the same in a sniper BS with lmjd. This goes for gun, missile, or drone boats. All can be fit to snipe near, at, or beyond a hundred km.

As for a cane in a level 4. No. Even if you can get the tank up to snuff, doing so will probably gimp your dps to the point that it would be a stupid endeavor, There are the above snipe options. And there are still all the non snipe more brawly options in a size appropriate ship. These will all be so much more efficient, and or more enjoyable. Actually I should say less boring.Straight

As for Naga in level 4. Why? You have no tackle defense. The attack BCs are pvp oriented. The only one that might be level 4 worthy is the Gallente one because it can carry a flight of light drones. But again, if you have large weapons trained just get in a BS.
Ginnie
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-01-06 16:57:15 UTC
I use a Navy cruiser for 3s and a Navy BS for 4s.

Also, the comment about sniping...100% true. With my Napoc Mega Pulse Laser II and Scorch range is 73km. With one Optimal Range Script 86km. With two 99km.

It sounds plausible enough tonight, but wait until tomorrow. Wait for the common sense of the morning.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-01-06 17:21:58 UTC
Drake for level 3

Battleships for 4.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#8 - 2016-01-06 18:18:19 UTC
I would go with 2 ships that use related skills unless your toon is trained up well all around.

For a Gallante agent an excellent path would be Cane to Malestrom to Machariel. Only a Kronos or Vindicator is going to kill them faster, and the time you save by flying a fast ship will equal out your ISK/hr. If you want to go marauder, Vargur is great to fly for a Gallante agent. I run 4 Gyros and a nanofiber, a MWD and MJD. Literally hit 1500m/s, no slowboating. Good times.

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Sewho
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-01-06 23:17:52 UTC
I appreciate all the advice guys!!! And yes iv had this toon since 2006 so he is very well rounded when it comes to skills. Think ill tinker with both brawler and sniper fits so I dont get bored with any one way. The point of a game is to have fun right ;)
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2016-01-06 23:23:38 UTC
I like my Kronos.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2016-01-06 23:47:42 UTC
I'm also a returning vet, when I left Tengu was pretty efficient at blitz running L4s. Is that still true or is it time to sell off the Tengu alt?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#12 - 2016-01-07 00:11:25 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
I'm also a returning vet, when I left Tengu was pretty efficient at blitz running L4s. Is that still true or is it time to sell off the Tengu alt?


Other people claimed to be more successful than I was at that particular function, but it was still fun to break the monotony and decent money. However, I would not have an alt account for that sole purpose, that would be inefficient IMHO.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2016-01-07 03:21:18 UTC
Tengu tends to be used more for stuff like running complexes.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#14 - 2016-01-07 07:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Anize Oramara
Froggy Storm wrote:
I'm also a returning vet, when I left Tengu was pretty efficient at blitz running L4s. Is that still true or is it time to sell off the Tengu alt?

Tengu is still decent but combination of heavy missiles not being what they were and the warp changes including implants making the Machariel a lot more agile means that you're better off with a Machariel if you're aiming for blitzing. The Rapid Heavy launchers also synergies really well with the Barghest making it very good for a good amount of the blitzable missions as well. Unfortunately Strategic cruisers can't be used in any of the burner missions as far as I'm aware either. T3s are mostly used for DED sites in low and null these days. Also WHs.

I might fit out a Tengu and give it a go at blitzing, see how it matches up. it can get really good warp speeds after all.

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Yeng Constantine
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#15 - 2016-01-08 12:57:52 UTC
Hurricane Fleet Issue for level 4:

[Hurricane Fleet Issue, New Setup 1]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II

EM Ward Field II
Thermal Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II

650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Mjolnir Light Missile

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II

Change the resists profile as required. Use Faction Ammo(Sabot) for EWAR frigs/drone. When it get close use the RLML and your drones.