Market Discussions

Hi there!

Im new to this game and was wondering how have you started making isk. At the beginning i meän. I think ive made it to 15m Mark now nyt due to limited game time its growing so slowly. I atm only so station trading with some PI training.

Running goods in and out of low sec. Minerals and moon mins out, ammo and basic mods in.

I started out with the basic buy-haul-sell trading relying on EVE-Central. This was before CREST or real time game-cache reading, so naturally I got burned several times and quickly lost the interest in this kind of trading.

So I moved onto listing T2 hardeners and drones for sale in the systems surrounding a LV4 agent system. This was long before Mobile Depot was introduced and I earned enough to buy a Raven, which then was promptly sold off using a CNRaven contract scam in Jita for 600M

After that.. the usual story of Trading one or two items, then more items, then more stations, and then going inter-regional, etc etc.

Now I buy through regionaly ranged buy orders, move using couriers, and sell through sell orders. <- so I'm back to the basic buy-haul-sell

Hello,

I started out mining for about 3 hours a day when I was working on things or reading a book. I then started manufacturing with my minerals, at the time I was selling the finished products for a few million less than the minerals. This is very bad since mining minerals in NOT free so I then readjusted spreadsheets and started making money on my manufacturing.

Eventually I was building so much I had to start buying minerals to supply my production. At this time I did my first bind for several hundred million, i think. This was also around the time of the BC tiericide so I was making good isk doing this. I followed this bond with several others going up to 9b which I payed back several months ago.

Currently I make enough to PLEX several accounts and fly whatever I want in PVP without much care. For anyone who says manufacturing is a waste of time or not worth it or not profitable I say look around more and make LOTS of spreadsheets.

Hope that helps you make your own EVE fortune,

Doing level 3 missions in a Ferox fitted with heavy missile launchers.

I started off mining then moved onto running my own mining corp with a 7.5% tax. I recruited the hell out of the corp and was making an easy 300mil a week profit in ore sales. I wound up the corp and moved on to practice PVP with the nice ISK I had accumulated. I did some small gang piracy and ganks, got some nice loots and whilst there was no PVP I ran DED sites which covered my losses. I then moved into WH space once I had enough ISK to sustain myself and lowsec wasnt as challenging as I hoped.

When I moved into WH space thats where it all changed. I started making copious amounts of ISK relatively easy and accumulated rouhgly 15 billion in a matter of months. I then sold my character at the time so I could buy an even higher SP character which opened up even more doors me. I got use to my new char, the new SP and all the nice ships he could fly on the test server and I finally took the plunge to move into C5 space.

On average I'm banking 600mil an hour if you break it down like that but I turn about 3bil a week between running high end gas sites, solo'ing C5 anoms and capital escalations.

I have more money than I can spend and will ever need to spend so eventually started "Investing" it via MD through bonds, loans and share sales etc.

I only ever invest if there's collateral.

TL:DR - Mining scrub, ex-CEO, WH dweller, Sold toon, bought better toon, rolling in cash.

Very boring: missions. Lvl3 in a Cyclone (Hurricane didn't existed at that time) , Lvl4 in a Tempest first (Macharial didn't exist) , Raven later. And I did that for years (not kidding you).

In 2010 I was doing the pretty typical Raven levelling grind until I earnt enough to max out my Marauder prestige class, then I bought another character so I could simultaneously maraud two missions. At some point I made a market alt to ship my stuff, produce BPCs from LP Stores and sell products, this led to me trying to fill my manufacturing slots with similar products when done with the minor amount of BPCs I could get for my LP, then I found faction ship BPCs and started to produce these, got investments from corp members to purchase a few more at a time and continued this for a while until getting bored of doing missions and quit.

I came back in 2013 and rejoined my old corp who had moved to null and noticed people sold stuff out there well below Jita, so I started buying them up and having a friend ship the stuff to low sec in his carrier. I also picked up the faction ship building again and eventually stopped going back to null to pick up the firesales.

The catalyst that catapulted me into what I've been doing for the last 2-3 years was finding out that you can view other peoples' contract history which could show you how much items were recently sold for, if you knew the sellers. After losing out on a few profitable contracts I soon found out who the traders to watch were and I just emulated them, remembering the prices they bought and sold for and checking back to see what was selling, or what juicy contracts I had missed.

TLDR: Missions, expanded on what I knew, happened to find people doing similar things and more, then shamelessly copied them.

I started doing courier contracts. Then I started trading using eve tradefinder. After doing a few of these, I realized buying at buy prices and selling at sell prices, even best inter-regional prices was sub optimal.

So while my capital was low, I started leaving a sell order when I logged off for the day, until I made enough capital that I could just leave the order active until it sold without monitoring it much.

I think eve-tradefinder is done, but eve-central does have a trade finder too. You can use it to find good buy/sell matches, to quickly raise your capital.

I've been gone for nearly a year so it may not be too applicable now, but playing fuel tanker can be an easy way to build up funds. Buy racial fuel isotopes in their narive trade hub and ship it to another major hub with different local ice isotopes. Iirc there is a racial transport ship dedicated to isotopes as well that can make it more efficient.

The upside is that there (in the past) was always a modest margin in both directions.
The downside is that you are a space trucker/tanker which is boring and if you are over full in terms of value then miniluv or code will want to give you some advice.