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FW PVP Rankings
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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-01-06 11:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hello all,

Someone has pointed out this interesting article to me so I thought I'd share for the benefit of anyone looking to join Faction Warfare whilst looking for PVP rather than farming.

The rankings cover all active PVP alliances over the latter half of 2015 that achieved over 3000 kills. I have picked out FW alliances that I recognise so if I miss you out I apologise!

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/294668909/EVE-Online-PVP-Ranking-H2-2015

'Best PVPers' FW Alliances

1st) The Bastards. (Gallente Militia) 11th overall
2nd) Multicultural F1 Brigade (Caldari Militia) 17th overall
3rd) Spaceship Bebop (Gallente Militia) 27th overall
4th) Smile n Wave (Minmatar Militia) 29th overall
5th) Plexodus (Caldari Militia) 31st overall

'Most Fun' FW PVP Alliances

1st) The Bastards. (Gallente Militia) 6th overall
2nd) Plexodus (Caldari Militia) 13th overall
3rd) Smile n Wave (Minmatar Militia) 15th overall
4th) Multicultural F1 Brigade (Caldari Militia) 24th overall
5th) Spaceship Bebop (Gallente Militia) 31st overall
6th) Villore Accords (Gallente Militia) 39th overall

I can't help but point out that we now have independent confirmation that Amarr Militia alliances are neither good at PVP or fun Lol
Kalaratiri
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2016-01-06 13:42:48 UTC
And Ushra'Khan are the 37th worst Alliance in Eve. Grats boys. Doing us all proud.

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James Clough
Space-Brewery-Association
#3 - 2016-01-06 13:44:13 UTC  |  Edited by: James Clough
I feel like skunk works would be on there is they had an alliance.

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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2016-01-06 14:16:35 UTC
James Clough wrote:
I feel like skumk works would be on there is they had an alliance.


Indeed it does omit corporations and smaller alliances that don't break the 3000 kills mark.

Wish I had enough space on my phone to view the whole thing Sad
Jiny
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-01-06 15:49:28 UTC
Interesting that RvB made the list without actually being in FW...
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-01-06 15:52:44 UTC
Jiny wrote:
Interesting that RvB made the list without actually being in FW...



It is a list of all EvE Alliances regardless of whether they are in FW. I have simply extracted the FW ones from that list and put them in rank order.
Jiny
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-01-06 15:56:23 UTC
That makes more sense...I skipped all the explanation text because phone reading = effort
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#8 - 2016-01-06 21:58:08 UTC
Weird article, how the f do the count fun. Is it isk/ships lost/ships killed/cucumbers pickled, like whaat ... Shocked
Dr darkside
Digital Ghosts
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#9 - 2016-01-07 01:46:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr darkside
im sorry to rain on your parade but the bastards. are 11th and a galmil alliance ;)

also on points killed and points lost Spaceship Beebop is 3rd just behind goons and PL and kills and losses are 3rd too thats some feat for a FW alliance
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#10 - 2016-01-07 03:12:08 UTC
I know, ill cherry pick statistics until my particular preference isnt exceptionally bad or irreverent!

There is literally no cal mil alliance that is worth any recognition. I wish it were otherwise.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#11 - 2016-01-07 03:59:21 UTC
That's not only a nice set of data but also a good write up to go along with it.
Given the transparency of the calculations and the wide variety of listed statistics it should easily allow tracking/comparing performance from different (pvp related) viewpoints.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2016-01-07 06:32:23 UTC
killmails do not contain enough info to generate meaningful rankings. They have also other problems, for example it is far too easy to get on a km without contributing to the fight (and the other way around) etc etc.

if you have a fleet of tristans and a fleet of slicers and let them fight each other. tristans will always get on top on every ranking.
why? because a tristan killing a slicer will give more points, not to mention that you can buy 5 tristans for a slicer so they would also win the ISK war. Ships scale differently dependent how many you have, your cargo may contain loot from prev won fights, this all screws with statistics.

a fleet following primaries will also get less points compared to a fleet which does not follow primaries. Roll The best way to read rankings is to ignore them, esp in a complex game like eve.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2016-01-07 07:17:54 UTC
Dr darkside wrote:
im sorry to rain on your parade but the bastards. are 11th and a galmil alliance ;)

also on points killed and points lost Spaceship Beebop is 3rd just behind goons and PL and kills and losses are 3rd too thats some feat for a FW alliance


Rankings updated, parade cancelled Blink
Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#14 - 2016-01-07 09:56:13 UTC
Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:
Dr darkside wrote:
im sorry to rain on your parade but the bastards. are 11th and a galmil alliance ;)

also on points killed and points lost Spaceship Beebop is 3rd just behind goons and PL and kills and losses are 3rd too thats some feat for a FW alliance


Rankings updated, parade cancelled Blink


hmmm does it not say something when it's not bebop or bloc but a little known corp that tops the stats?
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#15 - 2016-01-07 12:47:34 UTC
You see them high up in the other rankings - and that's not a coincidence. The bigger a group gets, the more difficult it is to score high on the first rankings, the easier it is on the latter ones. Groups that manage both, like Bebop, are outstanding and also show that the data evaluation is not terribly off.
I wouldn't get too stuck on the titles of the lists though.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#16 - 2016-01-07 16:24:13 UTC
Well my alliance is only a few months old so give us time to get on there! I know I was pleased to see a few Multicultural F1 brigade on there (I <3 you all) but, aside from smile and wave which is as best I can tell limited to Russian language speakers the Minmatar did very poorly which to be fair makes a lot of sense to me.

fwiw I had fun when I was in the Amarrr Milita but, the small pond that is the Amarr/minmatar warzone is probably a lot less conducive to rankings like this.

As far as other comments made, certainly a tristan killing a slicer ought to have a higher points value, t1 versus faction frig means they are fighting outclassed, the tristan is really good, but it is no slicer in terms of performance or cost.
Nakito Kobara
Yamagata Syndicate
Northern Coalition.
#17 - 2016-01-08 12:00:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nakito Kobara
This list is nonsense.

Having been in FW (Caldari) I can safely say Multicultural F1 Brigade and Plexodus are nowhere near as influential or active on the battlefield as Spaceship Bebop. And that's what matters.

TEMPLIS, BLOC and HECON are the real players in Caldari FW.

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Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-01-08 15:08:58 UTC
Nakito Kobara wrote:
This list is nonsense.

Having been in FW (Caldari) I can safely say Multicultural F1 Brigade and Plexodus are nowhere near as influential or active on the battlefield as Spaceship Bebop. And that's what matters.

TEMPLIS, BLOC and HECON are the real players in Caldari FW.


The rankings are:

Best PVPers and Most Fun (As the author has decided they should mechanically be measured)

Not quantity of kills and most Plexes captured. If those are the measures that matter to you then fair enough I would be interested in seeing those rankings too.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#19 - 2016-01-08 15:34:02 UTC
I have my own rankings. Im not going to go into the tedious and complex metrics that they are based on, but unsurprisingly, they show War and Order is the best corp in EVE,
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#20 - 2016-01-08 19:09:13 UTC
Here's a couple fun ones to check on a daily/weekly basis for you FW stat nerds:

https://api.eveonline.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx
http://facwarstats.appspot.com/

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