Player Features and Ideas Discussion

hey CCP, why not make wrecks scanable so salvagers can find them? If you want, make it available only to Noctis pilots. It would make salvageing a viable profession, like mining.

Making wrecks scannable isn't an inherently bad idea, and most newbros I've talked with are usually greeted with the answer, "Because CCP said so," when I tell them why they can't scan for wrecks. The challenge would be in adjusting other aspects of the market to make sure the total isk flow wouldn't be significatnly disrupted across the rig-making economy.

So, in essence, what would need to happen is to either cut per-mission salvage quantity a little bit or make rigs cost more salvage to manufacture in order to attempt to mainain the status quo in this regard. Or, you know, just make them scannable and accept that salvaged mats will drop in price far further than they've already dropped over time. Stuff's practically worthless as it is unless you do a ton of mission running.

i think that if someone want to make salvaging after others , they just need to ask .

after i returned after a break , i run some lv4 missions , and seeing what isk salvaging and looting after gave me , i just sold noctis. now i'm salvaging and looting only what mtu+drones can while i clean room , then just go to next.

What wrecks? Either I salvage them or I shoot them so there is nothing for others to find.

Fixable. Make wrecks scanable only after they have been in space for an hour and a half. The current despawn time (afaik). then give another hour and a half where they can be scanned down. Then despawn.

The amount that it would lower the costs would be fine especially if it was considered a starting profession. There would still be enough isk in it for newbies to do it though vets might find the income lacking. As for finding mission runners, the only ones that can be kind hard to find are T3 ships running missions, battleships and even BC's are pretty easy to scan down and I can't imagine that wrecks would make them THAT much easier to scan down.

Further this isn't even adding wrecks to the game, it's just making those that are already there scanable.

True, but if you are making this a new player profession, then the wrecks have to be relatively easy to scan down. Even high sensor strength, stationary objects, such as Yurts, rarely take my Virtue-equipped character more than 2-3 scans to locate.

Additionally, as it currently stands, if someone gets an escalation, he has 24 hours to run it. He gets into his ship and starts running it. I spot him. I bring in my scanning ship and start scanning him down. He sees the scan probes on long range scan and immediately makes a decision:

1. He can finish the site before I can scan him down and get inside to kill him. So he stays in it to win it.
2. He cannot finish the site before I scan him down and get inside to kill him. So he leaves the site and either cloaks up, leaves system, or logs off. He comes back at any time in the next 24 hours to finish it (presumably after seeing me log off for the night).

If I can scan down his wrecks, whether that is easy to do or hard to do, I have effectively removed option 2 from his menu. Unless the escalation runner destroys the wrecks as he creates them, which adds more time to the escalation, making him more vulnerable to being scanned down himself, and sounds like a giant pain in the ass (given that each room has maybe 40-50 rats). Given that I can scan down the average escalation running Tengu in under 30 seconds while he is in the site, he really has to be on his mark. Even if he runs from the site, if there is a single wreck in it, I can now steal it or lay a trap in it.

Even if the wrecks start out hard to scan and the sensor strength degenerates with time, I would happily wait 30-90 minutes to steal a 6/10 or 10/10 from a hostile or neutral player.

In short, this idea makes running escalations or missions in hostile space vastly more difficult.