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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-06 14:09:42 UTC
Alright, I have one toon that is a dedicated carrier toon, soon to be in a nyx. I just want other peoples input on what are the critical skills to have.

Here's the carrier related skills i have

Jump drive operation and calibration 5
Gallente carrier 5
Fighters 5
Advanced Drone interfacing 5
I can use both capital armor remote repairer and capital shield transfer modules

I'm currently working on getting armor tanking elite, which is basically getting armor compensation skills all up to 5.
Besides fighter bombers 4 or 5
What other skills are critical to being a competent super cap pilot.
Note: triage comes to mind first, but from what I'm reading, super caps are not necessarily supposed to be put into triage, they are just dps platforms.


Let me know what you think. And please hold the, if you have to ask you don't need to know. My skills are pretty dedicated and Ive worked hard to build my nyx.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-01-06 17:38:35 UTC
Sitting in Space Cloaked - Lvl 5
Boredom - Lvl 5
Ratting in a Supercarrier - Lvl 5
I wish I had spent my isk elsewhere - Lvl 5
Scared sh1tless to use supercarrier in a fight - Lvl 5

But I really do not know since I fly subcaps.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-01-06 18:48:06 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
Sitting in Space Cloaked - Lvl 5
Boredom - Lvl 5
Ratting in a Supercarrier - Lvl 5
I wish I had spent my isk elsewhere - Lvl 5
Scared sh1tless to use supercarrier in a fight - Lvl 5

But I really do not know since I fly subcaps.



Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.
I already have boredom 5 and cloaked in space 5
What i really should look for is small skirmish fighting 5 and excessive force 5

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#4 - 2012-01-06 19:21:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Mashie Saldana
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.

Well you did train Advanced Drone Interfacing 5, a skill you never will need for PVP (until you get ganked in a sanctum that is).

Also, they removed triage from supercarriers when they got the silly buff.

How to win EVE
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-01-06 19:25:14 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.

Well you did train Advanced Drone Interfacing 5, a skill you never will need for PVP (until you get ganked in a sanctum that is).


POS bashing. Every extra bomber is an additional 500 dps. Thats more than pilots in most battle cruisers and stealth bombers, So my 26 days of training is the equivalent to adding an extra character to a battle. So you were saying?

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#6 - 2012-01-06 19:27:19 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.

Well you did train Advanced Drone Interfacing 5, a skill you never will need for PVP (until you get ganked in a sanctum that is).


POS bashing. Every extra bomber is an additional 500 dps. Thats more than pilots in most battle cruisers and stealth bombers, So my 26 days of training is the equivalent to adding an extra character to a battle. So you were saying?


That when a single HIC has you pointed you have no heavy Neut to get rid of him as your only spare highslot has a cloak installed.

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-01-06 19:35:43 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.

Well you did train Advanced Drone Interfacing 5, a skill you never will need for PVP (until you get ganked in a sanctum that is).


POS bashing. Every extra bomber is an additional 500 dps. Thats more than pilots in most battle cruisers and stealth bombers, So my 26 days of training is the equivalent to adding an extra character to a battle. So you were saying?


That when a single HIC has you pointed you have no heavy Neut to get rid of him as your only spare highslot has a cloak installed.



Oh yeah i forgot i go out and fight solo in this thing so i wont have a 50 man fleet behind alphaing the **** out of that one hic. Come on guys, this isnt what do we use moms for, its what are the critical skills. lets use our brains. oh, and remote ecm burst will prolly be in the other high.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#8 - 2012-01-06 19:41:51 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Mashie Saldana wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Ratting in a supercarrier 5, im such an idiot why didnt i think of thta.

Well you did train Advanced Drone Interfacing 5, a skill you never will need for PVP (until you get ganked in a sanctum that is).


POS bashing. Every extra bomber is an additional 500 dps. Thats more than pilots in most battle cruisers and stealth bombers, So my 26 days of training is the equivalent to adding an extra character to a battle. So you were saying?


That when a single HIC has you pointed you have no heavy Neut to get rid of him as your only spare highslot has a cloak installed.



Oh yeah i forgot i go out and fight solo in this thing so i wont have a 50 man fleet behind alphaing the **** out of that one hic. Come on guys, this isnt what do we use moms for, its what are the critical skills. lets use our brains. oh, and remote ecm burst will prolly be in the other high.

That sounds awesome, can't wait to read the killmail.

As for your question about suitable skills for a capital pilot, click on the bottom link in my signature, that is my capital pilot.

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-01-06 19:58:49 UTC

That sounds awesome, can't wait to read the killmail.

As for your question about suitable skills for a capital pilot, click on the bottom link in my signature, that is my capital pilot.[/quote]


I will send you all the sbu, tcu, and towers i will with it. Dont you worry about it. Now, my next question, why is everyone on the forum either
a. smartest guy in eve
b. an a-hole
c. Both


Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2012-01-06 20:09:53 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:


Now, my next question, why is everyone on the forum either
a. smartest guy in eve
b. an a-hole
c. Both




I am both because if you have to ask on the forums how to fly a supercarrier, then YOU SHOULD NOT BE FLYING ONE. :P

R.I.P. Vile Rat
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-01-06 20:12:32 UTC
Kyt Thrace wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:


Now, my next question, why is everyone on the forum either
a. smartest guy in eve
b. an a-hole
c. Both




I am both because if you have to ask on the forums how to fly a supercarrier, then YOU SHOULD NOT BE FLYING ONE. :P



I think thats exactly what i started the post with. I know how to fly it, im just trying to be as well rounded as possible.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-01-06 22:51:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Mona X
Projected Electronic Counter Measures, standard leadership skills + WC, thermodynamics, skill for smartbomb and nuets, cybernetics.

They're right, ADI is waste of time.

I need new signature.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-01-06 23:26:39 UTC
thanks to the last post, thats the kind of input i was looking for

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Ryuce
#14 - 2012-01-07 17:25:31 UTC
Obligatory 'if you don't know these basic things you probably shouldn't get the ship yet' post.

Seriously though, if you want to check up on these things spend 5 minuts on google searching for relevant posts and ½-1 hour reading the results. The basic information is out there in abundance.
I likegirls
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#15 - 2012-01-08 00:48:51 UTC
Navigation skills (to align out faster)
Shield Management and operation both to 5, it adds a little bit of ehp.

And because of the super carrier nerf which makes them pretty boring,

Capital Ships 5 (Train for Nyx when you are out of stuff to train, but have at least at 4)
All gunnery support skills 5, Capital hybrid turret 5
Doomsday operation 5
Gallente Titan 5
Leadership skills
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-01-09 15:45:29 UTC
Some real advice? Ok - first, get into a CARRIER. Get a few combat runs in that carrier. THEN see if your crew will let you use a super.

If you think that all the SP in the world will make up for the lack of showing combat experience in a capital - you're wrong. They'll take a less SP intense pilot, showing action in capitals, over a "I have the SP!!!" pilot any day.

AFTER you've run a capital in combat a few times - then look at topping out the skills you'll need. This can be done before your training plan is complete so order the plan with the more questionable skills towards the end. - Such as 5 DCU's being able to be fit.

PS: "1 hic ... 50 man fleet with me..." - It's not bad to count on your friends but it's usually a good idea to plan on covering your own ass as best as you are able, without overly gimping yourself. Nobody is going to tackle a cap/supercap unless they figure they can take you -AND- your friends out.

If a HIC shows up and tags a capital, it ain't alone either and that tackle is the first of how many enemies inbound? No - your 50 friends may not be able to "alpha" that ship to save your butt. They might just be a tad busy with the 100+ ships that were just bridged in to get you as a killmail.


So plan it but also get the hands on with capitals BEFORE you start looking at finalizing any plans for a super. What you start with for your plan, vs what you will find is best to use - based on your teams approach to fights... Quite often these can be 2 different specs.