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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-06 10:52:34 UTC
We have new names for some missiles:

Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile
Inferno Rage Assault Missile
Inferno Javelin Assault Missile

There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-01-07 02:59:13 UTC
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
We have new names for some missiles:

Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile
Inferno Rage Assault Missile
Inferno Javelin Assault Missile

There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here.


Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers.

But yeah, I don't know what is up with that.

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-01-08 02:19:55 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
We have new names for some missiles:

Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile
Inferno Rage Assault Missile
Inferno Javelin Assault Missile

There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here.


Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers.

But yeah, I don't know what is up with that.


or torps on your drake? Twisted

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-01-08 02:38:30 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Takeshi Yamato wrote:
We have new names for some missiles:

Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile
Mjolnir Javelin Assault Missile
Inferno Rage Assault Missile
Inferno Javelin Assault Missile

There are already torpedoes using the same names, but the other Assault Missiles and Torpedoes have unique names. Not sure what's intended here.


Clearly, you should fit HAMs on your bombers.

But yeah, I don't know what is up with that.


or torps on your drake? Twisted


:insert "Naga needs missiles" tears here:

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Sarmatiko
#5 - 2012-01-09 13:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Moreover ALL missiles (not only assault) were renamed according new format on latest test build today (changelog).

Inferno - Thermal
Mjolnir - EM
Nova - Explosive
Trauma - Kinetic

For example:
Scourge Heavy Missile > Trauma Heavy Missile
Gremlin Rocket > Mjolnir Rocket
Bane Torpedo > Nova Torpedo

I like this name change because too many names for missiles is frustrating.

But I really dont like TRAUMA name for kinetic. I hope this will change to any name other than friggin trauma. What?
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-09 13:32:02 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
I like this name change because too many names for missiles is frustrating.


Also liking this.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#7 - 2012-01-09 14:01:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
btw not only missiles have changed.

afterburner/MWDs are now:
limited << upgraded << experimental

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CCP Lemur
#8 - 2012-01-09 15:17:24 UTC
CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.

Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-09 15:41:49 UTC
CCP Lemur wrote:
CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.

Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.


Best. Change. Ever.

I assume this will go through all Meta modules over time? If so, +1000 internets to you all for this.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#10 - 2012-01-09 15:49:28 UTC
CCP Lemur wrote:

Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.

you could keep it in the description. "Mjolnir Rage Assault Missile (also known as RIYFXploder [right in your face exploder]) bla bla..."

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#11 - 2012-01-09 15:50:56 UTC
CCP Lemur wrote:
CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.

Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.

So when is the new DB names going to be upload to the wiki?

As long as there is a {{DBstub}} bot in the works that changes all the links while we are at it all is good. If not -1000 internets.
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Killmeded
Conkord Everything
#12 - 2012-01-09 16:17:09 UTC
While we are at it can we rename the light missile shooting "assault" launcher since it does not use heavy ASSAULT missiles. I use them regularly and its REALLY annoying to have to point out assault NOT hvy assault when discussing them . . . . . Call them expanded missile launchers or something else that wll not resemble another similar item

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Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#13 - 2012-01-09 16:19:58 UTC
CCP Lemur wrote:
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.

Doesn't make much sense to introduce completely new names for the kin/exp missiles either.

If you really want the name to give some hint to the damage type, just rename them to "Kinetic Assault Missile" or "Explosive Assault Missile", but don't make us learn one more name (even if it's the last one we are going to need).

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#14 - 2012-01-09 16:38:20 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
CCP Lemur wrote:
Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.

Doesn't make much sense to introduce completely new names for the kin/exp missiles either.

If you really want the name to give some hint to the damage type, just rename them to "Kinetic Assault Missile" or "Explosive Assault Missile", but don't make us learn one more name (even if it's the last one we are going to need).


The new names represent the damage type of their missile far better:


  • Mjolnir - EM damage - Thor's favorite weapon. Think "lightning".
  • Inferno - Thermal damage - literally, "Hell". Depending on what you believe, Hell is hot or cold, but nowhere in between. Those are both thermally damaging environments.
  • Trauma - Kinetic damage - from "wound" in Greek. Being beaten to death (kinetic damage) is quite traumatic, don't you think? Dying to a kinetic-wielding Caldari ship is also a traumatic experience.
  • Nova - Explosive damage - From Wikipedia: "A nova (plural novae) is a cataclysmic nuclear explosion in a star". Nuff said.


The latter two make way more sense than "Sourge" and "Bane", or any of the other pre-existing names. Man up and get used to it.

On another note, good job, CCP! I always thought the varying missile names added a completely unnecessary layer of complexity that didn't really help immersion or anything.

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Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#15 - 2012-01-09 16:50:23 UTC
I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.

So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on?

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B DeLeon
DeLeon Industries
#16 - 2012-01-09 17:01:27 UTC  |  Edited by: B DeLeon
Jack Dant wrote:
I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.

So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on?


It's easier to search those on the market with a unique name
Vegare
Bitslix
Lolsec Fockel
#17 - 2012-01-09 17:04:08 UTC
This is truly great news!
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#18 - 2012-01-09 17:16:30 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
I knew that. But they are not very obvious names, except for Inferno.

So why not name them "EM Warhead assault missile" "Thermal Warhead assault missile" and so on?


Because that's boring P. Projectile ammo is called "EMP", "Phased Plasma", "Fusion", "Titanium Sabot", "Depleted Uranium", "Proton", "Nuclear", and "Carbonized Lead". Those are just about as intuitive as the new missile names. On top of that, you have to remember not only the difference between the damage types, but also between the range/tracking mods they offer.

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Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-01-09 18:05:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Takeshi Yamato
CCP Lemur wrote:
CCP Gnauton is cleaning up lots of item names and reducing unneeded weird names. This should make it easier for people to figure out what does what and which is better in the great pile of meta items.

Sure, some people will moan about the loss of the unique names, but it makes no sense to have a new name for the same damage type for each missile type.


Any idea what's planned for, say, Capacitor Power Relays? I count 12 variants of them before even looking at faction or officer versions and most of these are effectively useless. Are these just going to be renamed in a manner that allows one to see how good they are compared to each other? Why not remove some of the obsolete ones from the market?
Morgan North
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#20 - 2012-01-09 18:46:13 UTC
Maybe the reason they'r being renamed is because missile launchers are being worked on? I can dream? :D
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