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Correct, they did change the drifters by having them orbit considerably shorrter. Sorry for not updating post after we noticed this change.

If they atleast allowed low sig radius ships to use their sig radius for target delay as normal pvp situations, we could overcome this with tracking disruptors and then warp in the dps frigs.

By 'no-one' you mean 'no-one except that incursion group that has scheduled incursion fleets about every second day' right? Though obviously they are having to create a new doctrine every time CCP changes them.
It's just Drifter incursions vanish instantly they hit 0% influence. So it doesn't take that long to do one and then it looks like no-one is running them again.

And Chan'aar. Lets see you come up with a profitable approach to drifter incursions and FC fleets then. People are not going to run respawning content at a loss for any significant length of time. If they shut down gates and stations but can't be beaten except at massive loss, people will just go somewhere else in EVE or play another game.
It's easy to sit back and accuse people of wanting magic risk free income from the cheap seats.

so ccp could change the way the reward is given out, eg. that all capsulers that warped in on the gate to begin with gets payout, that would change the scene entirely.

but still, if you take a t1 cruiser fleet into a site that does 15m payout and half fleet dead before site is done, then u realistically get like 5m payout per capsuleer that died.

If were supposed to take the hit for the team, the reward have to be given out also taken into account personall loss. that reward pool eg. calculates total reward, and gives covers the loss to the specific pilots that died in the attempt so they can get another ship back based on the shared reward pool.

if that happens, incursion sites can be the same as today, and its just a matter of fine adjusting the reward to make the sites worth running for capsuleers.

Well, holidays season passed, and drifter incursion didnt even move a bit. I checked.. none running em..

total scandal by CCP.

Yup in future all NPC combat will be forced net loss. So CCP can sell more PLEX. Nothing wrong with that up to a point. Especially if people get advanced warning signs to evacuate area. More people will simply be forced to acknowledge PVP is the way to make ISK in game.


LOL - but I am sure all the CareBear types will scream and leave EVE. CCP will need to promote EVE as like most RL sports, it costs RL money to compete and show who is best. Up to players to get sponsors or fans to help pay their way. WHole different slant on what EVE could be.

But being good at EVE will mean a whole lot more than having uber rich players who primarily suck up ISK from guaranteed PVE scenarios.

well i was just linked this travesty of a post today and felt i should come post my thoughts on drifters ... as i am one of the fc's that regularly runs public drifter fleets (read 1-2 a week as schedule allows)


for starters no ... drifters are not broken in any way except they cannot be ewar'd like we used to do. More importantly the site time and payout is 50M isk for about 10-15 minutes of nailbiting fun (and danger) if more folks got the word out about the drifter community then im sure the sansha players would start doing it as well but for now its just 4 communities of dedicated players who have cracked the code and discovered how to farm the drifters for isk. high risk but far higher reward.



for anyone interested in flying drifter fleets you can stop by the "What Drifters?" channel or join the "What Drifters" mailing list


the fleets are usually posted a few days in advance for location of focus as well as time and the doctrine ships are all in the mailing list as well as motd of the channel. we may be small in number atm but .... Corporate Reward Payout 50,000,000 ISK 1,697,698,421 ISK CONCORD rewarded Morathia for services performed. we are definately making isk from them XD.