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Nanocle - 5km/s Oracle
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Miles Winter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-01-03 11:51:07 UTC
While I was playing around with an oracle fitting, I threw on an oversized MWD for the hell of it.

Turns out the oracle can fit this, and all its guns, and most low/midslots you could want; with just an ancillary current router rig I, and a reactor control unit:

Here's a quick design example Comes to ~230m isk.

I can't see any actual use for this. Especially considering the battleship-sized sig radius.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-01-03 13:09:39 UTC
Signature radius is the same with 500mn as it is with 50mn, what you're thinking of is the turning radius, or the align time, which with a 500mn Oracle is significantly worse than that of a battleship.

It's probably useless but it seems like the potential for fun might be there. 100mn AB Oracle would definitely be more practical though as far as oversized props are concerned because of the tiny signature radius and the immunity to scrams.
Miles Winter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-01-03 21:32:06 UTC
Agility mods can get you down to ~19 second align time. Maybe 10-15s if you go really expensive with them; that should help with turning and maintaining speed; though not with getting it.

I suppose the oversize MWD can be combined with a higgs thingy for increasing the mass dramatically for bumping or collapsing wormholes: This oracle can get ~140,000,000 - 150,000,000 kg's with the higgs, MWD, and some armor plates - which is about on par with advanced battleships in terms of mass.

If you want sheer mass and speed, you can get ~730m/s with 0.111x agility modifier and a mass of 129,520,000kg

Kind of want to run a bumping formula now to find out how much that'll send something flying.
Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
#4 - 2016-01-03 21:49:30 UTC
Miles Winter wrote:
Agility mods can get you down to ~19 second align time. Maybe 10-15s if you go really expensive with them; that should help with turning and maintaining speed; though not with getting it.

I suppose the oversize MWD can be combined with a higgs thingy for increasing the mass dramatically for bumping or collapsing wormholes: This oracle can get ~140,000,000 - 150,000,000 kg's with the higgs, MWD, and some armor plates - which is about on par with advanced battleships in terms of mass.

If you want sheer mass and speed, you can get ~730m/s with 0.111x agility modifier and a mass of 129,520,000kg

Kind of want to run a bumping formula now to find out how much that'll send something flying.

Trouble is that you can fit 500mn stabber that will be way more manageable with MWD turned off and will go 8 km/s, consistently throwing freighters even with side grinding and throwing hulks with quarter of it's own speed.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#5 - 2016-01-04 07:43:34 UTC
I did that with a Talos when they first came out. The terrible agility (turning) was one thing; but I was amazed how slowly it accelerated...
So yeah, it can be done but it's almost entirely impractical.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#6 - 2016-01-05 07:12:47 UTC
Miles Winter wrote:

I suppose the oversize MWD can be combined with a higgs thingy for increasing the mass dramatically for bumping or collapsing wormholes: This oracle can get ~140,000,000 - 150,000,000 kg's with the higgs, MWD, and some armor plates - which is about on par with advanced battleships in terms of mass.


You can use just about any cruiser with a 100MN AB and get very similar stats, cruisers are much cheaper.

If you are pro you will use a Yacht , 120M Kg, Nullified, covert ops and space for a stab or 2.

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If you want sheer mass and speed, you can get ~730m/s with 0.111x agility modifier and a mass of 129,520,000kg


730M/s is too slow for bumping, even if it bumped like a boss, unless you landed right on top of them they would just warp off before you got there. Not to mention that it takes like 20 seconds to get up to that speed and turning for a second pass would be a pain.