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Bounty Abuse in new players

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Sindy Maya
DMC Mining Services
#1 - 2016-01-01 13:27:02 UTC
Many players are abusing the application of bounty, especially with new players, where they apply heavy bounties in your char. Where you do not need to talk, just the fact that you join in the channel they already applying some bounties.


>>>What to do in such cases and with these players? What?
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-01-01 13:35:30 UTC
Don't worry, they just want to play.
Solecist Project
#3 - 2016-01-01 13:50:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
There is no abuse and you're just a faceless alt anyway.
Look up what abuse means.

Throwing bounty at new players changes nothing for them, but the pic.

I use them as personality test.


You're just trolling.

In case you're not ...

There is no abuse. It's fun, nothing more. Any new player who rages about the bounty
does not even understand what it means or does. For a new played it changes nothing.

I bounty new players a lot. It shows me the attitude and intellect the player has.
Ofc not everyone cares about that, understandably, but it changes nothing.

What matters is that the bounties create social content ...
... and they do that really well.

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Sindy Maya
DMC Mining Services
#4 - 2016-01-01 14:43:50 UTC
Solecist Project

thanks for the reply, and...

i´m not a faceless alt, i delete my old char (trial char) so
I was very scared for taking 40 million isk in bounty What?

obs: sorry me, not english speak
Einsteins Daughter
Nighthawk Exploration
#5 - 2016-01-01 14:58:53 UTC
Sindy Maya wrote:
I was very scared for taking 40 million isk in bounty What?

I wouldn't worry about it.

The bounty system is effectively useless in many respects.

People who kill you when you have a bounty on you will only get a percentage of the bounty dependant on the value of the ship you're flying when you're killed. In most cases (unless it's an extreme bounty into the billions of ISK) having a bounty doesn't bring any risk with it at all. Just ignore it and keep playing, and just think of how badass you look with that 'Wanted' sign on your portrait. P

Like Sol said, more often than not, people are bountied just for fun or to see what their reaction is.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-01-01 15:08:53 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Sindy Maya wrote:
Many players are abusing the application of bounty, especially with new players, where they apply heavy bounties in your char. Where you do not need to talk, just the fact that you join in the channel they already applying some bounties.


>>>What to do in such cases and with these players? What?


First things first:


Bounties are useless and nobody pays attention to them.





So, with that, let's answer your question.

Ignore bounties, they are useless. They don't change anything about the game (legal fight rights aren't changed. People who can shoot you can regardless of a bounty or not on your head, the same counts for people who can't legally shoot you, this stays the same with or without bounty).

p.s.

Just cause you don't like how something works, doesn't mean it is abusing the system.
Learn the difference.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2016-01-01 15:17:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bumblefck
Solecist Project wrote:
There is no abuse and you're just a faceless alt anyway.
Look up what abuse means.

Throwing bounty at new players changes nothing for them, but the pic.

I use them as personality test.


You're just trolling.

In case you're not ...

There is no abuse. It's fun, nothing more. Any new player who rages about the bounty
does not even understand what it means or does. For a new played it changes nothing.

I bounty new players a lot. It shows me the attitude and intellect the player has.
Ofc not everyone cares about that, understandably, but it changes nothing.

What matters is that the bounties create social content ...
... and they do that really well.



That is a bit heavy handed and out of order, tbh, especially for NCQ&A

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David Therman
#8 - 2016-01-01 15:18:13 UTC
To be wanted, is to be loved. Blink

In all seriousness, it's their isk that they're wasting on a practically meaningless game mechanic, don't sweat over it.
Sindy Maya
DMC Mining Services
#9 - 2016-01-01 15:34:01 UTC
thank you all. I thought it was like hunted brand as in many other games. I thought of abuse as if it was abuse of power Big smile
Jeremy 929
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-01-01 16:03:57 UTC
so... having a bounty does NOT give people attack rights against you? how would someone go about claiming a bounty placed on someone?

is it different than seeing "wanted" on a character?
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-01-01 16:05:04 UTC
Sindy Maya wrote:

obs: sorry me, not english speak

No worries. This section of the forum is english only but while I can only speak for myself I think that most of us are totally fine with working through translation issues.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-01-01 16:21:30 UTC
Jeremy 929 wrote:
so... having a bounty does NOT give people attack rights against you? how would someone go about claiming a bounty placed on someone?

is it different than seeing "wanted" on a character?



Wanted = Has a bounty.


And no, it doesnt mean you become a legal target.

But it wont stop someone who want to just suicide on you if they can.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#13 - 2016-01-01 16:37:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Ignore bounties.

Everyone reguardless of bounty status is a target in the sense that one can be attacked at any time. The question is, is it worth it to the attacker?

In high sec, attacking someone without kill rights of some sort invokes Concord and concord will blow up your ship, any attempt to evade concord is considered an exploit. But this is strictly a punishment not a prevention.

In general, bounties aren't an incentive because it is awarded based on your ship value, which is not much. And because most of the people looking for targets are often trigger happy and would shoot you for the lols anyway. No matter what common wisdom someone may give you, once you undock you are not safe, but in hs at least, you are highly unlikely to be attacked.

Think of it like RL. You can walk in a convenience store in town without worry most of the time, but every once in awhile, someone robs the store, and you don't want to be there then. That is how HS works.

Also, try not to delete your characters again. The skill points give you a head start and are better than starting over.

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Jeremy 929
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-01-01 16:39:38 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Jeremy 929 wrote:
so... having a bounty does NOT give people attack rights against you? how would someone go about claiming a bounty placed on someone?

is it different than seeing "wanted" on a character?



Wanted = Has a bounty.


And no, it doesnt mean you become a legal target.

But it wont stop someone who want to just suicide on you if they can.




i see... so "wanted" doesn't mean "wanted by the authorities"

thx
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-01-01 17:15:49 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
Ignore bounties.

This is the best advice.

Bounties change nothing and are useless other than to create drama for players that don't like having the word "wanted" at the bottom of their picture. They seriously are a useless mechanic that not only do you not need to worry about but there is no use in you wasting your time to try and "figure them out". You are not going to be hunted for your bounty and you will not be hunting other's for their bounty.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-01-01 17:37:24 UTC
Be proud of your bounty, somebody found it worth spending money to pay people a small tip if they manage to kill you. Unless you have a couple hundred million bounty on your head and also fly multi-billion worth ships, bounties are just social interaction. Clueless people will fear you, enemies will acknowledge the tip, and you have fun knowing every time you die, somebody else has a payday.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#17 - 2016-01-01 18:33:54 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Clueless people will fear you, .



This! It is funny how newbies react to the Wanted! OMG!

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#18 - 2016-01-01 20:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Just my two cents worth.

If a bounty bothers you, you can always start another character, transfer everything to that character then biomass(delete) the character that had the bounty.

Or
1. Remembering that a player gets 20% of the cost of the ship they destroy capped at the amount of your bounty.
2. Do the math and buy a ship that cost that enough so that 20% of it's value will clear the bounty.
3. Make sure you are in a clone that has A. no implants or B. implants you can afford to lose.
4. Go roam around low sec, someone will be glad to remove your bounty by killing your ship. And if they pod you then you get a free trip back to your home station instantly.

Or as the others said simply ignore it and have fun.
Pix Severus
Empty You
#19 - 2016-01-01 21:51:05 UTC
I like having a bounty, it makes me look scarier to the newbies. Unfortunately I die a lot and my bounty keeps getting cleared.

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Soloman Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-01-02 00:06:03 UTC
Hell, I've been playing for a couple years. I can't get a bounty to save my ass! I've blown up MTU's in front of folks, snatched Frostline loot from folks....Nothing. Sheesh. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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