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Can this laptop run EVE Online flawlesly?

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#41 - 2015-12-31 15:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't.

Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost.



This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with.

That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins.


Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC.

To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise....

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2015-12-31 15:21:41 UTC
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't.

Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost.



This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with.

That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins.


Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC.

To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise....

I already said that I have the 7730m which is between the 920m and 940m in performance (being much closer to the 940m). At 1080p with everything maxed in an ice field with 19 ships on screen mining the 940m will probably have a few more FPS (5 or so).

Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#43 - 2015-12-31 15:30:15 UTC
So it doesn't run flawlessly at high settings. What was the point of this whole argument you started then?

Oh god.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-12-31 15:35:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
I only pointed out that you to have glorified console as well only difference is your is restrained to your mom basement while laptops aren't.

Gaming laptops are good for mobility and gaming i want both while not chopin' arms..... on other hand(lol) (in my specific case ofc) buying 3 generation behind desktop would be considered waste of money regardless of cost.



This was unnecessarily childish and offensive. If you're going to get salty like this, then again, you want to find a public bar and pick a fight there. You want to argue the merits of building your own PC? Then argue with merits. So far, you've demonstrated none, not even a basic understanding of why I call laptops glorified consoles to begin with.

That being said, reading material for people that don't think they already know everything, are willing to learn something new, and don't have massive quantities of salt perpetually flowing through their veins.


Alright Pollard enjoy your fine crafted PC.

To the OP go for 940m and on single client you should be able to push some setting(probably most) to high enough for EVE to look pretty hopefully single person will show up in here say it have that card and provide answer instead of lot of noise....


Most? I run at full, all of them, except engine trails only because I don't like them. It works fine with them on, and all settings set to max, full, no exceptions. It has no framerate issues even with a few thousand ships on grid with my hardware. I can even record with Action! and have no drama, all on dual monitor at 3840x1080. That video is cropped because all my intel is on my right monitor - makes making videos much easier than having to put patchy black things all over the place.

That video is 50fps, but only because of a bug in Action that causes sound to desync at 60 for some dumb reason. There's a patch available atm, I'm hoping it'll fix it, just been too lazy to download it.

Meanwhile, this was recorded with fraps a few days after I finished building this. It's at full 60fps and I hadn't figured out how to crop yet. Enjoy.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#45 - 2015-12-31 16:10:44 UTC
^ i was referring to laptop 920-940m GPU and in my best guesstimate what hi can expect.

Never questioned your desktop performance.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2015-12-31 16:13:23 UTC
The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2015-12-31 16:16:52 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs.


For those who can only afford one computer period... Laptop is always preferable because if can serve the purpose of travel, home and portability inside the home.

I would suggest that if you are getting one and only one computer, a mid-range gaming laptop such as an MSI Apache would be perfect and cost effective.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2015-12-31 16:26:43 UTC
King Aires wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The point is, it's about more than just performance. It's performance vs costs vs needs. If you need to travel a lot, a laptop is ideal. Otherwise, your cost/performance ratio is always going to go to a tailor-made PC based on your needs.


For those who can only afford one computer period... Laptop is always preferable because if can serve the purpose of travel, home and portability inside the home.

I would suggest that if you are getting one and only one computer, a mid-range gaming laptop such as an MSI Apache would be perfect and cost effective.


And again, if you don't NEED portability, you don't need a laptop. Y U NO LISTEN? Is someone who can only afford one computer going to be living in a mansion or something?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Altair Taurus
#49 - 2015-12-31 17:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Taurus
Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications:

1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. I assume computer MMO games typically have lower system requirements.
2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile.
3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"-ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card).
4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant running EVE at constant 60 FPS during every possible in-game activity excluding mass fleet battles with graphic settings at medium-high level.

A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance-wise than laptop hardware.
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#50 - 2015-12-31 17:54:32 UTC
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King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2015-12-31 18:08:03 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications:

1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. I assume computer MMO games typically have lower system requirements.
2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile.
3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"-ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card).
4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant running EVE at constant 60 FPS during every possible in-game activity excluding mass fleet battles with graphic settings at medium-high level.

A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance-wise than laptop hardware.



http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-1080P-Gaming-Laptop-Computer/dp/B00NTNFUPA/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1451585179&sr=8-11&keywords=14%22+gaming+laptop

This would be more than enough to stable 60fps at high settings with low post-processing in Eve and its very mobile and affordable.

If you are talking about a low-powered tablet version of the i-series... no, low settings and 60fps in non-demanding parts of eve only.
Altair Taurus
#52 - 2015-12-31 18:13:42 UTC
Nope. I talked about exactly the same CPU as is present in above laptop - only a generation newer (i5/i7-5xxx instead of i5/i7-4xxx). However I am not knowledgeable enough about Radeon GPUs. Could you tell me what is closest nVidia alternative to R9 M275?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2015-12-31 18:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Altair Taurus wrote:
Woow! Heat discussion here and while I did not want to continue it I think you deserve my clarifications:

1. I do not want to purchase gaming laptop or desktop because to run most demanding games I own PS4 console. I assume computer MMO games typically have lower system requirements.
2. Unfortunately laptop is my only viable choice because I have to be mobile.
3. For these two reasons I am limited to not so expensive multipurpose laptop (Intel i5/i7 "U"-ltra low power CPUs, low to mid range nVidia graphic card).
4. Well, having written flawlessly I meant running EVE at constant 60 FPS during every possible in-game activity excluding mass fleet battles with graphic settings at medium-high level.

A asked because desktop hardware is very different performance-wise than laptop hardware.


Well, before I built my PC, I was running EVE at mid-level settings on a Compaq Presario CQ57 with a crappy surplus intel pentium B960 chip and intel HD integrated graphics. In layman's terms, INCREDIBLY low-end hardware. It ran EVE at 60fps in all the time I was running it on that laptop. It's actually a very hardy machine (although it spacs out if it gets too hot, and by too hot I mean if a bit of sunlight touches it) and I still use it today for work, running Linux Mint 17.3 XFCE. I've also upgraded the RAM in it to 6G, which actually helped it run EVE a lot smoother.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Altair Taurus
#54 - 2015-12-31 18:21:45 UTC
Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today.
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2015-12-31 18:32:06 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
Nope. I talked about exactly the same CPU as is present in above laptop - only a generation newer (i5/i7-5xxx instead of i5/i7-4xxx). However I am not knowledgeable enough about Radeon GPUs. Could you tell me what is closest nVidia alternative to R9 M275?



860M GTX would be the same level, with each being better at certain things than the other.

For 800 bucks you have a computer right there, at 14"(150mm) and under 6lbs or 3kg whatever your localization measurements are.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2015-12-31 18:37:58 UTC
Altair Taurus wrote:
Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today.


Funny you should mention that. I got EVE running on it again a few moments ago through WINE to test it out of curiosity, because I thought about this myself.

Lowered the settings a bit and undocked and did some basic stuff, no drama.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
King Aires
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2015-12-31 18:46:40 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Altair Taurus wrote:
Yet it was four years ago and EVE sys-reqs were lower than today.


Funny you should mention that. I got EVE running on it again a few moments ago through WINE to test it out of curiosity, because I thought about this myself.

Lowered the settings a bit and undocked and did some basic stuff, no drama.



Yeah, I got eve running on a C-50 1ghz single core cpu with 1gb of ram. 15fps in station :D

But any of the 4th gen or better intel or any of the A6 or better APU or newer AMDs will run eve at medium perfect if you turn of dumb things like asteroid particles and light rays.
Altair Taurus
#58 - 2015-12-31 20:11:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Altair Taurus
Yes. EVE has rather large set of graphical settings. I have to look at them carefully.

BTW - Does EVE support multi-core CPUs?
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#59 - 2015-12-31 21:41:27 UTC
^ nope

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Aradrox Jinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2016-01-04 18:13:50 UTC
I believe OP mentioned said laptop was around $1000 here is a link to a review of laptops under that price range wich should all run eve quite well... I run eve maxed out over 100 fps on a desktop with a G3258 over clocked to 3.8 Gjz and gtx 760. All of these laptops should out perform my desktop in most games and applications unless they are single or double threaded and cpu intensive. Desktop took 500 to build