EVE New Citizens Q&A

In my short career I've been destroyed by another player only two times, both times by the same player and in the same system, Eggelend.

He must camp the gate into Eggelend.

I'm flying a T1 industrial.

I've read about Safe Spots, and mods designed to allow you try to escape being warp scrambled, but I'm wondering whether its even worthwhile trying to do anything about it in T1 industrial.

Advice?

Thanks.

If you mean Egghelende, that is low-sec. It is normal to encounter PvP there.

As for a T1 indy, the main rule is not to get into fights. They are not combat ships, so dont try combat with it.

No matter if you tank them, they will just postpone your ultimate demise.

If you get caught on a gate, the only option is to burn back and crash the gate and prey your tank holds long enough.

Use scouts for intel up ahead in case of high value hauling or risky routes.


Edit:

Zkb confirmed it was Egghelende, a low-sec system.

Maybe read up on game mechanics and the warning when you jump into lowsec.

Also, looking at your Incursus loss:


A. One type of gun, not multiple type of guns. Fit for 1 tactic, not multiple.

B. One type of tank, pick shield or armor (which ever suits the ship) and stick to that. Dont dual tank

You have to buy 500 PLEXes and put them in your T1 Industrial cargohold as you fly through Egghelende (or Rancer, for that matter)...the golden shininess will blind the pirates as their laser beams will effortlessly reflect back on them



As others have said, it's virtual suicide flying that kind of ship there, even more so as that is a particularly active pirate hotspot. You can check which systems are likely to be camped in the star map, and filtering the data by pilot occupancy.

This.

Further you are using the wrong type of T1 for carrying the load you had. A Nereus would have been much better suited. It has a much larger tank in the event you do get caught and it has a much higher warp speed meaning you will both be able to get to your destination faster as well as be able to effectively run away from destroyers and above if they try to pursue you through multiple systems.

Something like this would have been optimal to carry your load:
[Nereus, Low Sec]
Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II

Improved Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Some might argue the istabs are bad as they allow people to lock you faster but under most circumstances you should be cloaked so that is irrelevant. They just give you a shorter align time when undocking in the event you don't have an insta undock setup in advance.
You can get a higher EHP if you use hardeners instead of so many extenders but if you don't have it/them on by the alpha strike that extra EHP is irrelevant so I go with just extenders.

But really all you need is the MWD and T2 cloak to survive.

No, I knew it was low sec.

I'm just wondering whether it makes any sense to try to fit out the ship to survive or whether it's forgone conclusion that I'm dead if attacked and so I shouldn't waste the ISK trying.

It's not a foregone conclusion, but it is more difficult. I fly BRs through LS and null on a daily basis, but for the most part I avoided ls until I could fly a t2.

Sigils used to have the best align time of the indies so I'd fit mine with 2 WCS and istabs, prototype cloak and mwd. Use cloak/mwd trick if you run into a gate camp. No cargo expanders for LS indies. If you're moving product from LS to HS, you'll just have to make multiple trips and stage it somewhere close. Now the t1 indies are a lot closer in overall utility, so I can't really suggest to train for a given one. But, each race has two, and one will be the slow tough one, and the other will be more nimble and less cargo, so fly the nimble one if going into LS.


Also, before you even think of flying into LS with an indie, jump in a rookie ship if low on isk/sp and go to the destination station and make a insta-undock. If not low on isk/sp then an inty or covops are good for making insta undocks.

[Nereus, Nereus]
Damage Control II
Type-D Restrained Nanofiber Structure
Type-D Restrained Nanofiber Structure
400mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Mark I Compact Reactor Control Unit

Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive

Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Giant Secure Container

This fit hauled a lot of value via low-sec, including Amamake or Jita via Rancer. At one occasion it forced its way through couple smartbombing battleships.
As long as you warp gate-to-gate, T1 hauler with cloak+mwd and some buffer is very safe. There is no need for blockade runner. DST could be useful if you need more cargo space, but also in this case the way to travel safe is to mwd-cloak.

To add on, I'm just going to mention.......BATTLE BADGERS! :DDD
But seriously, Caldari indys can tank pretty heavily.
And just GTFO of lowsec! :P

In highsec, the max safe value in a tanked T1 transport is around 50 million ISK.
The best defense is not being an economicaly worthy target.