Crime & Punishment

From time to time I find myself needing to give a little "hint" to certain chars but can't and want to do it myself.

So I need some corp who can suicide gank and preferrably pod chars which might mostly be in NPC-Corps and might fly around in differenty sized ships.

msg me ingame to make an offer.

Your request is brilliantly vague:

What type of ships
What time zone
What general region in eve
How much are you offering

Well, if you want whatever drops to be yours, you better be willing to pay a premium for it.

They're not a fat target if you take all the ******* loot.



Are you daft?

You don't seem to realise what you are asking. If we wanted KM's we'd just gank left, right and centre. However, we gank fat targets to both profit and replace our wrecked ships as we GET NO INSURANCE PAY OUT. Therefore, giving you loot rights to EVERYTHING makes this an exercise in STUPIDITY.

You wan't to cripple your competition? Then you have to pay a premium(e.g. a value to make it worth it to the gankers). An example; Killing a freighter = 21 tornado's roughly. Which is in excess of fully fitted 1.5 billion isk and therefore leaving the gankers out of pocket by 1.5 billion. To make it worth it, you'd not only have to match this expenditure, you'd have to beat it. 21 players are going to want more then just a few mil isk per person, you're looking at doubling the ship loss value, more if you're ganking particularly valuable cargo such as BPO's or capitol components. So 3 billion(after the 1.5 billion) cost divided by 21 is only roughly 71 mil each. Or roughly barely worth it as you can make much more in pve/ratting/ransoms for less effort in an hour. Market dominance is expensive, if you can't afford it, stick to 0.01 isk trading games.

The first sentence has considerably covered, but you should pay "a few 100 millions of ISK" because you want to make it appealing to the gankers and worth their time. If you want to hire people to make a target dead in highsec, then it will cost a fair bit.

EDIT: You probably should join the Merc channel in-game, to find some quotes. I can understand if you are a little hesitant to give out too many details on the forums, but with the information we have all we can say is "It'll cost a bit, depending on what they fly and where."

This man speaks words of wisdom.

Also OP, you've claimed you want to keep all the loot, that was the point of my post. You're making the point of telling us who has good loot, but you seem to think its the kill mail worth billions of isk we want while you keep the left over loot. No, we simply want the loot for fun and profit. A kill mail is just enjoyable bragging rights for naming and shaming later.

Join the Merc channel, offer up what you think is fair, hopefully someone takes up the contract. But you won't find much outside of Hulkageddon for 20mil a ship or so while you keep the loot.

Edit - Looking over your offers, 200mil retainer + half the loot and you paying for ships sounds like a decent enough contract, you should be fine

So hypothetically, after the "mercs" gank the target for you, what is their incentive to give you any of the loot(assuming it is worth more than what you are paying them)?

As the loot would rightfully be theirs for killing the target, it would basically be like they are paying you for the gank.

Good thread with all the different perspectives.

After giving this some more thought I still come to the conclusion that I am not willing to pay for intel on potentially good targets. If I tell you what bank is easy to rob I expect a cut from the money you make from a heist, not pay you to give you that intel.

However, given what I want to achieve I will change my offer:

I can give any chars/corps operating around Jita info on potentially high value targets. Add them to your watchlist, follow them, decc their corps (Edit I can pay for the wardec):, take your time. Once you catch them with high value cargo blow them up and receive

a) a 100m payout for each char actively involved in the kill (flat fee,no ships and fittings)
b) 105% of current jita market sell-value (=buy orders) for a certain group of items which I will name beforehand when giving you the intel. You can keep the rest of the loot, I don't care if this makes up 99% of it, I am just interested in these selected items.

Both of the above will require an API-verified killmail ofcourse.

Any thoughts on that?

Yes.