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I'm looking the Gift Horse in the mouth...

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-12-30 02:34:32 UTC
"Where is my free stuff? Why haven't you given me my free stuff? I AM ENTITLED TO MORE FREE STUFF!!! Why is it that on Christmas, I'm thinking more about what I should be getting rather than what I could be giving?"

^^^^
Why CCP should never give anything for free to anyone for any reason.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-12-30 02:35:51 UTC
Maldam wrote:

If CCP had just given out a lot of token gifts in earlier years, I would have expected it.
...
Just my opinion, but decent gifts were a nice thing, and its hard to understand how this served any good purpose.


I think those two sentences work really well in juxtaposition.

You expect shiny gifts because they've been given out in the past, yet you can't see how not giving out shiny gifts, and thereby curbing those expectations, serves a good purpose?

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

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Solecist Project
#23 - 2015-12-30 02:36:57 UTC
Joe Risalo wrote:
Why no shinies this year for christmas?
Could have at least handed out something from previous years..
I'm sure we all would have liked to see more Geckos or something...

Am I just too early for christmas presents or something?

.. Or was another player correct in the claim that the gifts are in the frostline sites?
If this is correct, the 3 kings didn't make Jesus battle it out in the wilderness for his gifts.

Is this where you want to be when Jesus comes back?

It is odd that someone so materialistic and cold hearted comes up with Jesus.
On another hand does it seem quite fitting.

In any case is there no use talking to you ...
... and I honestly wished CCP would exclude people like you from receiving gifts.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#24 - 2015-12-30 02:38:25 UTC
I'm guessing it's because you guys didn't act bad enough this year. Every other year we behave terribly and we get rewarded for it.

Oh god.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2015-12-30 02:40:50 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
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If by "expect" you mean in the statistical sense that I will probably receive gifts, sure.

If you mean "expect" in the entitled sense that I deserve gifts and should complain about it a lot if I don't receive them, no, not so much.

More like in the sense that you would be disappointed that you didn't get anything.
Not disappointed in the sense that you were entitled and/or deserving of gifts, but more in the sense of you're accustomed to it.

Basically, it's like a daily ritual. If you like to drink coffee every morning, and you wake up to realize you're out of coffee.
There's no entitlement here, because you're the one that buys the coffee.

So, you can't really be mad and throw a fit, but you'll be upset that the ritual is broken.



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No, it's easy. Just stop doing it, let the whiny little ***** throw their tantrums, and stay the course.

Do you have kids?
If so, do you have rituals with those kids daily, weekly, monthly, yearly?
Maybe fishing every other weekend, bowling, ice cream..
Sure, it's a luxury, but try explaining that to your kids when you just decide to stop doing it, then tell them they're a little b*tch for being upset.

I realize we're not kids, but we all become accustomed to a tradition, ritual, or whatever you want to call it.

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I would, huh?

Kind of a bold assumption that everyone subscribes to your own sense of entitlement.


No, it's not entitlement.
If I explained to you that it was because I was quitting Eve and/or couldn't afford to do it anymore, you may be a little upset about it, but you'd understand.
A simple explanation goes a long way.
But if I suddenly stopped doing it, most people would wonder why, if not be a little upset; Not at you, but at the fact that something they had grown accustomed to suddenly stopped.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-12-30 02:47:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Joe Risalo wrote:

Do you have kids?
If so, do you have rituals with those kids daily, weekly, monthly, yearly?
Maybe fishing every other weekend, bowling, ice cream..
Sure, it's a luxury, but try explaining that to your kids when you just decide to stop doing it, then tell them they're a little b*tch for being upset.



If you want to demonstrate you're not just throwing a tantrum because you expected free stuff you didn't get, analogising yourself with a spoiled brat probably isn't the best way to go about it. See, the adults playing this game, we don't care about the free stuff. It's fun, the lore stuff is entertaining and a joy to receive, but if we didn't get it, I can assure you, life would go on and no ***** would be given.

[EDITED OUT A WORD THAT THE LANGUAGE FILTER DIDN'T CATCH!!! OMG CCP YOU BREAK TEH FORUMS!!]

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-12-30 02:48:30 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Joe Risalo wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
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If by "expect" you mean in the statistical sense that I will probably receive gifts, sure.

If you mean "expect" in the entitled sense that I deserve gifts and should complain about it a lot if I don't receive them, no, not so much.

More like in the sense that you would be disappointed that you didn't get anything.
Not disappointed in the sense that you were entitled and/or deserving of gifts, but more in the sense of you're accustomed to it.


I think it's weird that your first thought at being gift-snubbed by a family member would be disappointment at the lack of stuff.

I'd primarily be concerned that they have some sort of unaired grievance, and the implications about our relationship.

You know, **** that actually matters.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Solecist Project
#28 - 2015-12-30 02:55:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Joe Risalo wrote:

No, it's not entitlement.
If I explained to you that it was because I was quitting Eve and/or couldn't afford to do it anymore, you may be a little upset about it, but you'd understand.
A simple explanation goes a long way.
But if I suddenly stopped doing it, most people would wonder why, if not be a little upset; Not at you, but at the fact that something they had grown accustomed to suddenly stopped.



No, most people wouldn't.
Only a tiny minority of spoiled special needs kids complains about presents not being up to their expectations.

Please, point out the *masses* of threads and posts written by *most* people!


I'll wait.
In the mean time could this thread be about ways of getting it locked.

Only until you're done pointing them all out, ofc.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-12-30 02:56:21 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
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If by "expect" you mean in the statistical sense that I will probably receive gifts, sure.

If you mean "expect" in the entitled sense that I deserve gifts and should complain about it a lot if I don't receive them, no, not so much.

More like in the sense that you would be disappointed that you didn't get anything.
Not disappointed in the sense that you were entitled and/or deserving of gifts, but more in the sense of you're accustomed to it.


I think it's weird that your first thought at being gift-snubbed by a family member would be disappointment at the lack of stuff.

I'd primarily be concerned that they have some sort of unaired grievance, and the implications about our relationship.

You know, **** that actually matters.


My family doesn't get me anything because I asked them not to. I'm fairly well off and have been given more than enough free stuff in my life to help me get where I am. That, and I don't really like the idea of getting free stuff just because 'christmas'. The most thoughtful gifts are when this happens: "OH! Look at that, I discovered something that someone I know might really like or need. It's not a special holiday where I'm obliged to give or anything, but I'm going to get it for them anyway because it's thoughtful."

Because at the end of the day, no special holiday obliges me to do anything. Same applies to CCP. Their obligations begin and end at what you've paid for. Anything else they give you is an act of generosity, and that includes the free expansions they provide you with.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2015-12-30 02:58:43 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
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If by "expect" you mean in the statistical sense that I will probably receive gifts, sure.

If you mean "expect" in the entitled sense that I deserve gifts and should complain about it a lot if I don't receive them, no, not so much.

More like in the sense that you would be disappointed that you didn't get anything.
Not disappointed in the sense that you were entitled and/or deserving of gifts, but more in the sense of you're accustomed to it.


I think it's weird that your first thought at being gift-snubbed by a family member would be disappointment at the lack of stuff.

I'd primarily be concerned that they have some sort of unaired grievance, and the implications about our relationship.

You know, **** that actually matters.


I do not deny gifts simply because of grievance.
That goes against the idea of christmas.

Now, if I know you're hurting for money, I wouldn't expect anything, yet would still get you something.
ISD Buldath
#31 - 2015-12-30 03:00:24 UTC
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