EVE New Citizens Q&A

No tears here. Just looking for advice.



With all due respect, this is just a platitude that isn't even accurate.

It seems to me that there are number of activities in the game where the goal is, in fact, to make ISK and success is measured by ISK. Trading or manufacturing for example,

Activities like pvp and exploration have different objecctives, t, but who's to say that they're more "fun" than trading or manufacturing?

Don't worry. I'm a cheap bastard. I'll use the cheapest ship I can get away with!

the goal of making isk is almost always to use it for something else. Fund pvp, buy a new bpo, buy a plex, get some shiny implants, or whatever else. It makes sense be efficient and work to minimize time spent to get that goal. Some people see the goal as the fun and the isk making as grinding to achieve it, others have fun with the grind. If I need to buy a plex every month I'm not going to waste my time mining veldspar when I can run missions or go exploring. Of course there are some people out there that are just making isk to make isk. I don't really have a goal right now so I'm mostly in that category, however once I do decide a goal I'm going to have a hell of a lot of isk to have fun with

It wasn't an accusation, just a warning. Not everything we write on NQ&A is directly towards the OP, much of it is written for other Newbies reading the thread.




Trading and Manufacturing make a lot of money so a lot of money can be spent, and because the more money you have, the less effort it takes to make more. Every isk making activity in Eve can be thought in terms of resource%/time = profit. Traders work this equation by maximizing resources so that even a small percentage of ROV can equal a large amount of isk. Mission runners seek a good balance of recources vs. time, while scammers are seeking the largest return for the least resources invested, so they generally spend a lot of time between payouts.

If accumulating money is fun for you, then do it. I'm just saying that whatever method you chose should be one you enjoy, because there are many means to make isk, and every single one of them will support any given playstyle.

I trade because I enjoy trading, not because I have to make lots of isk. This is a game, that's not a platitude. So enjoy yourself.

I'm one month into this game.. and I was at your stage eager to earn as much isk I can.. only to find out that I can't fly even my battle cruiser (Myrmidon) to its potential and ended up doing missions in my cruiser (Vexor) , even at lvl 3 security missions.

Now nearing my first billion, I realised just by doing stuff religiously the isk will come. I tend to not let anything go to waste and by that I mean doing things like mission-ing. . Combat sites. .hoping for escalations... bookmark all wrecks .. salvage and loot (they give really good extras apart from your mission rewards and rats bounties ) .. repeat.... get bored and then change ships to exploration... get the occasional 50 to 100mil loot from high sec data/relic sites.. yes im serious. ...repeat.. take a break (and afk mining while you take a break. 900k to 1mil per haul from a noob venture is great passive income too )..

Soon enough you find your isk piling up and effectively you only need a few cheap ships. Glamorous ships that the veterans fly are something we set our target and look forward to.. but when you are new... you just simply have to train up your skill set. Work towards something you really want to do and work hard. Just remember to have fun.

And oh. I bought a 3 month sub as I am confident things will get better by then, and I should be able to buy plex and be self sufficient.

Alcohol.

Anyway, to answer your question, there are many opportunities to make money trading without needing to haul. Most serious traders have at least one character that never leaves Jita (or your favorite minor hub). Just list buy orders at low prices and sell orders at higher prices to turn a profit off people's need to buy things now.

You can also do a lot with courier contracts and services like PushX or Red Frog Freight when regional or interhub trading. Let someone else shoulder the risk, while you focus on how to make profits.

I made 100m ISK today by listing something you can get for free for 100m ISK on contracts.

Knowledge of EVE is important. My advice is try anything and everything, it is the best way to learn.

This is correct.

I once received 500 million isk for a bet I was unable to lose.
He believed it's not possible to loot while cloaked ...
... which isn't a fully accurate way to say it.

To quote him: "Easiest 500mill you ever made?"

You bet!

Would be funny, though, if they added piles of paper bills to the capt. HQ (the more ISK in your wallet, the higher the piles), so you have to wade through them every time you load it up. Purely cosmetic, of course, sort of like a decoration. Also, crates of the crap you have in the items hangar, if the hangar is excessively full. Also purely cosmetic.

Never underestimate the greed of carebears


e: or people more generally, for that matter. But not Bumble; Bumble only craves more moustachio wax