Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If you really need 3423479 posts saying "I'm a drama queen, poor and have to make choices, please make EVE free and I'll stick around not paying anything at all. It's better for the game that way, honest" then you might as well quit and spend your time more wisely.

I'll happily pay 20 euro/month and add another account just for good measure to sweeten the deal for CCP.

You can quote anything you like from CCP Games Customer Support Team - who are wonderful and to be commended - but it has no standing with regard to watching players baited into opening the box and being blatted - and then invited to join the corp - or supposedly the corp will pursuing them to the end of their days in Eve - and I've seen it

That you bring up 'small brain' is you issue not mine - my brain fits the average hat - the question you can't answer - or even guess at - is why, despite clear T&Cs CCP has not addressed this issue

Which is proved by your nonsense about 'once they jump the gate ' - something they have to do four or five times to complete the tutorial - is bollocks - any damage has already been done long before any new player gets to run a delivery missions

So guess again
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Again,

before you whine, maybe check out the fact yourself.

For instance CCP and or ISD:STAR are quite often present in new player systems, to monitor new players (both the behaviour and to help them get going).

Then there are many occasions I had with alts (as CCP can't see if it's an alt account or a genuine new player) is that one of the community devs open a convo with me after a hour of playing to check up on me (which wasn't needed, but they still do it).



So, yeah, CCP is actually doing quite a lot to help. But in the end, EVE is goaled towards a certain type of gamer, and the majority of the gamers won't fit that audience.

And a very very big community will go to the end of the galaxy to help a new player if they have questions and is mature enough to go find some help from others.

It has been said before multiple times, EVE is a MMO where a lot of the important stuff is based on the community. So, use that.

Reading the OP, it becomes evident the habit of reliance upon "hand holding" game structure had this person waiting for the game to do something, or some neon sign to flash with instructions A through Z. Many of the "faults" mentioned have to do with bothering to take a close look at things such as the interface, and to observe rather than expect.

This is rather common: "When I press A I expect B to happen, but it doesn't, so the game is broken." Why expect A to happen? Because A happens in all the other games I play, so it "should" happen here as well...or the game is broken. It's possible the "entitlement generation" believes its observations are more significant than actualities - as in even having the vocabulary to follow this sentence. "You use big words. I can't understand big words. I only know small words.
You're broken."

What I see with the complaints about the intro is first and foremost a level of impatience at the outset that is debatable whether engineering should be used to accommodate it, as it is obviously either a learning disability involved, or a character flaw in that someone will not take the time to consider...there are other points of view, and other ways to do things - other than the WoW model "some" gamers seem to think is the MMO Bible.

Having done every iteration of the intros since 2007 I have to say it's never been more obvious, hand holding or...accommodating. Anyone who complains at this point should really take a long look at themselves.

And that's my two-cents worth.

PS "turn ons" and "turn offs" What? Is this the sixties again?

When they shut off the lights then people will consider new ideas in EvE.

People are considering new ideas for EVE everyday. The only ones being rejected are the stupid ones.

Take another look. Or have I stumbled upon the arbiter of all good ideas on the internet?

Besides there is an axiom that there are no stupid ideas, just close minded people.

To use newbies as a blunt object, or as a shield for excuses and rhetoric?

If it's the former, I'm a bit doomed.

oh, sadly i didn't know that and don't remember any thing other then it was a female char with blond hair thats name started with an "S". >.>



sooo... where are these cute cloths?

Keep an eye out, let me know if you see it again and I'll gladly push her shite in for you.


Or file a support ticket and the gm's will do it for you.

Your character sheet has a tab that shows kills and deaths.

Also, a lot of PVP'ers link their kills via the API system, so you can google yourself.

In any case, this game does not have separation between newbies and veterans. You can jump into the fray from day 1, and even sometimes win (other MMO's a level 1-10 attacking a level 60+ won't even hit). But of course that comes with "bad" side effects, like wormholes to dangerous space opening in highsec, and veteran PVP'ers roaming high-sec.