Warfare & Tactics

Hello Capsuleers,

So, as some of you know, I am a Spectre FC, and Solo/Small Gang pilot, and I fly a Megathron for this, now, I am not hear to tell you that Battleships need a second rack of Guns (Though it would be cool), or that they need mini-Bastion modules, or any of that, but Battleships need to be reworked, in the sense that they need, in my belief, around 20-30% more EHP, maybe a Resistance buff, a defence to EWAR, like 25% defence against EWAR negative effects, cause a Battleship is supposed to be a massive powerhouse of war and power, it has more electrical systems and defences then the Frigate that that just gave it a Lock Range of 10kms, they should get buffed Capacitors or in-built Capacitor Batteries, even a boost to Cap Injection, they should be made a little slower and align a little slower, as I mean, come on, they are 1.5km's bloody long, that should not be as agile as a Cruiser that is 350m's long.

But yeah, I know most people are against Battleships for some stupid reason, but honestly, they need to be better then they are, in a way that won't break them for larger scale combat, cause I have used them in both, and their is no reason to take them over HAC's, which is complete bull****. For example, my I was roaming with my Mega last night, and I come across a gatecamp, it was 1 VNI, 1 Exeq, 2 Svipuls, 1 Azuru, and a Huginn. That is 4 Cruisers, and 2 ships that are supposed to be destroyers (Not going to rant about how pathetically OP those things are in this thread), now, a 1.5km long, 70k Buffer, 1k DPS Tank, 750 DPS at the Guns, 3 Flights of Lights, should not be Webbed to less then 50m/s, Scrammed, and then Damped to a point where I couldn't lock the VNI orbiting me, that was Scramming me, while watching the a single T1 Logi Ship Rep all the damage I was applying (My Mega has the same Tracking as a Neutron Thorax, hitting Cruisers is not an issue for me), while orbiting his fleet out of my range. I made it out in Low Armour, after I bled a bit of Hull, a Battleship should be able to warp into something that small and dominate the field, now I am not saying it should be able to take on a 10 man Cruiser Camp that is set up right, but a bloody 6 man camp, yes, a Battleship should be able to obliterate that, it should not be effected by Webs the same way a Frigate is, it should not be effected by EWAR the same as a Frigate is, it's DPS when being applied, should not be able to be Repped by a single Logistics ship. Now, I am not upset about this camp, I have come across many, always the same, since I started roaming with my Mega, but, even in my Thorax and Ferox's, I have come across the same comps, and I have gotten through without my Tank breaking.

So, my question for you, those of you who actually bothered to read this, why should a Battleship, a massive juggernaut of war, over 1km long behemoth of death, be able to be countered harder, then a Cruiser/Battlecruiser is on a gatecamp? Do you not think that a Battleship should be more then what they are? So, if you agree, please tell me what you think a Battleship needs, to become a recent ship, because, honestly, it should not be "Fly a Mach, it is the only good one", it should be "Machs are really fast, but if you want Tank to Gank, go a Mega, or Range? Oh man, you want a Raven or Rohk", if you think otherwise let me know. I mainly want to see what the EVE community thinks about Battleships in general, and what they would do if they had the power, because as a Battleship pilot, I get a lot of hate for flying a ship I love, that doesn't perform at a level that I believe it should be at.

I think you miss what I mean, I don't want to be able to blap smaller ships, I don't even think I should be able to apply better then what a Level 5 Megathron can, they Track perfectly already, it is EHP that is the problem, a Faction Cruiser can get the same EHP as some Battleships, with the same rough DPS figures, a Battleship is supposed to dominate the field, that is why they are called Battleships, they BATTLE, but you can get the same DPS/EHP/MORE SPEED/MORE TRACKING/BETTER SIG on some Cruiser sized Hulls, don't even get me started on T3's, they should not have the EHP that is nearly double most Battleships, with equal DPS.

Like I said in the OP, I don't want to be able to kill Small Gangs of small ships, I want to have a suitable tank that those smaller ships should have to up ship, or bring more to overwhelm me, Battleships can be made with a single Rig, and some Drugs, to be able to Track the small stuff, but honestly, you can not tell me that the Tank on Battleships is equal or where it should be? I think that should be 20-30% better then it is at current.

Oh and Warp Speed, honestly, I wouldn't care if they had 1 AU/s Warp Speeds, I would still roam in them, slower Warp is the price you pay for a ship that SHOULD be a proper Battleship, 2 AU/s is plenty, and can be made the same as Cruisers relatively easy. I use my Mega in Small Gang a lot, mainly with Cruisers/T2 Cruisers, and the speed doesn't slow us down that much, once I am on grid I am almost as fast as half of them when I over heat. But once again, it comes back to EHP, Tank, those numbers are too low, that is how I feel.

And honestly, you don't think something that powerful and electronically superior should be able to be Jammed and Damped, and Webbed the same as a Frigate, it doesn't make sense, it literally means that in New Eden, a Minmatar Shuttle, has the same electronic defences, and integrity, as a Caldari Battleship, that the engines are the same strength, how does that make sense?

Actually, yes.. Never really taken notice of that as I rarely fit one, 4 Mids doesn't leave much after Injector and a Trinity.

But yeah, this mixes in with my thoughts on why a Battleships systems seem to be in line with the most basic of Matari ships, Targeting Range on a ship that has enough power to fire what is essentially a cannon firing cars at close to speed of light, should have you know, a Gj or 2 to amp targeting a fair chunk.

My Battleship locks a Frigate in like 21 seconds.. That is pretty good

Agreed on both, and yeah, I think it would max sense, as the energy required to do that to another ship would be enormous.

Umm.. No.. Carriers are a different cake entirely, as are Dreads

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I am yet to see a 500mil ISK Faction Cruiser.. And a Phobos can get a metric ton of EHP, also, it has the Sig to add to the 'Tank', T3 however, yes, they are around 500mil with the Subsystems and stuff.

And really? Warp Speed doesn't bother me, and I travel to and from my Null and Low Sec homes to my mission systems, which are 25-35 Jumps apart, I love it, makes me feel stronger, dunno why, although on that note, wouldn't a Battleship have a better or same Warp Speed as a Frigate? Like obviously it would take ages for it to hit that max AU speed, but it would have a higher max or something, but that isn't something i care about, I like it the way it is :)

Also, I don't want immunity, that should be the domain of Marauders, I want resistances against it, like Sensor Strength or the Hull itself should have benefits against things other then being Scanned down, and ECM.

Same EHP is easy, DPS is hard to match, but if you, where to say, to go in depth and bring Speed, Sig and Tank into the math, then you can actually come up with a Tank that rivals a Battleship, with the same DPS, and like I said my Mega has 70k Buffer, I can get 100k+ EHP on a Phobos, and even more on a Onyx and Broadsword.

And ah, dual boxing, I just have Ace, no Alt's, well, one hauling Alt since the War Dec's haha! :P but other then that I roam pure Solo I have heard it called, I like it more, though nothing is more awesome then FC'ing from a Megathron :D

LMFAO. Wheel chair chainsaw. Gosh.

What if there was a module that could add three pockets of modes, like the td3's? Most T1 battleships have a lot of spare pg. Can make it like a specialized link bonus, or even allow one of the five subsystems to be placed, respective of faction of course. All that would have to be done is open up a subsystem slot. Just one. But I don't think the cov ops would be good. That **** would be scary.