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I'd erase T3 and Caps from the game if it was in my power.
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d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-12-22 22:53:51 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.

T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting.

Been around since the beginning.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#42 - 2015-12-23 00:52:04 UTC
So either battleships are useless because of caps.

Or caps are useless because of battleships....

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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#43 - 2015-12-23 04:20:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
d0cTeR9 wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.

T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?


SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting.


Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.


Fun fact, I was part of the first blue killed T3 when Drekla decided to awox SYS-K. At least, the first as far as anyone is aware. They were quite new at the time, and very expensive. The tears were good.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2015-12-23 05:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
It is spaceships in general that are the issue.

if you deleted all ships from EVE you would eliminate in one fell swoop:
- tidi
- ganking
- afk cloaking
- gatecamps
- blobbing
- hotdropping
- misson and incursion running carebears

etc etc

This would leave plenty of server CPU capability to implement WIS and Pirate Eye Patches and Fedo Unicorns and other cool stuff.
Kozawa
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-12-24 06:10:43 UTC
This is why you're not in charge, OP.
Kyra Lee
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-12-24 06:40:19 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.

It would be just like living in highsec.

"You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that."

Exactly. Blobs.


It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems.

Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem.


I for one would love to see gank dreads sitting off the gate in Uedama and Jita undock. I have no doubt that someone would still make that profitable.
Avitar
No Laws Apply
Unforgiving.
#47 - 2015-12-24 11:05:55 UTC

Nah it was gone.[/quote]


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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni
#48 - 2015-12-24 11:36:25 UTC
what about that chin guy
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#49 - 2015-12-24 12:05:06 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Nothing good ever came from either.
I beg to differ. My trusty Legion is doing just fine thank you very much.
Kuronaga wrote:
But dreams are nice to have.
Dream on I would say, dream on.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Revenant
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-12-24 21:24:17 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.

T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?


T3s are very much essential to WH pvp. So there's that.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#51 - 2015-12-24 23:40:39 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.


Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down.


As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game.

T3s, well, T3s are inevitable.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#52 - 2015-12-25 00:18:06 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.


Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down.


As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game.

T3s, well, T3s are inevitable.
I have nothing to say here but Merry Christmas Val'Dore and Alavaria.

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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#53 - 2015-12-25 09:05:50 UTC
Kozawa wrote:
This is why you're not in charge, OP.



But I am in charge.

Just not of this.
Rhalina Sedai
Doomheim
#54 - 2015-12-25 10:39:59 UTC
I want CCP to allow supers back in high-sec and delete concord. Any CSM taking notes??? Lol

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Vanilla Mooses
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2015-12-25 10:47:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanilla Mooses
Kuronaga wrote:


Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.


This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol"

Edit: Fixed broken quote tag.
Solecist Project
#56 - 2015-12-25 11:11:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Vanilla Mooses wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:


Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.


This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol"

Edit: Fixed broken quote tag.

Shut up!

I've been in KarmaFleet!

You guys do nothing else than amassing cheap labour! Cheap, intellectually inferior, labour!
You bait them with fun and money!

Bread & Circus!



I certainly can't get along with inferior people who have massively inflated egos and nothing to show behind them!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#57 - 2015-12-25 11:46:47 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps.

Let's also not act like you had a real argument at any point in this thread.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#58 - 2015-12-25 11:48:52 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem.

Simple: people who refuse to leave the CONCORD hugbox don't deserve to have the big toys.
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#59 - 2015-12-25 15:25:34 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.

T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?

This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed.

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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#60 - 2015-12-25 22:11:03 UTC
Unicorns and rainbows to everyone (were it in my power.)

There just isn't anything that can be said!