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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#1 - 2012-01-08 22:06:01 UTC
My idea is probably not a new one since I cannot understand how easy this question is. Why don't we have show fleet only in overview as a filter?

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2012-01-09 00:12:30 UTC
...we do.
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#3 - 2012-01-09 00:30:02 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
...we do.


do wat?

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#4 - 2012-01-09 02:38:06 UTC
Have a filter.

Overview settings include color tags, filters, and a plethora of other things. It's the most customizable feature in the game.
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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#5 - 2012-01-09 02:41:42 UTC  |  Edited by: COMM4NDER
Mars Theran wrote:
Have a filter.

Overview settings include color tags, filters, and a plethora of other things. It's the most customizable feature in the game.


Yet you don't have the option to show fleet members only. Right now you can only make so you see all players on grid not only fleet members.

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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#6 - 2012-01-09 02:51:05 UTC
As far as I recall, you hust check off the Fleet as visible on the overview setting tab, and uncheck everything else. I can't log in to confirm, but I think you must be missing it.

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Jonny Frost
RavenhoId
#7 - 2012-01-09 04:49:15 UTC
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#8 - 2012-01-09 06:44:47 UTC
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)

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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#9 - 2012-01-09 09:27:00 UTC
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member


And its the same now, in order for it to work you need to assign standings to fleet members and revoke them if they leave.

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Tanith YarnDemon
Hypernet Inc.
Umbrella Chemical Inc
#10 - 2012-01-09 09:29:14 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)


You're confusing states with appearance. States has no priorities and no way of altering the order of it. You can make fleet members show up yellow in background even if they have a mediocre sec status even if in fleet, or you can have the purple override all, but they will still suffer from the exclusive list of states.

If the states tab was inclusive we wouldn't have this issue, but arguably others. The method Mr Frost suggests would be a very effective way of solving it all, and allow for best customizability, but arguably also the highest entry barrier. On the other hand, why have a broken but seemingly intuitive system?
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#11 - 2012-01-11 03:35:26 UTC
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)


You're confusing states with appearance. States has no priorities and no way of altering the order of it. You can make fleet members show up yellow in background even if they have a mediocre sec status even if in fleet, or you can have the purple override all, but they will still suffer from the exclusive list of states.

If the states tab was inclusive we wouldn't have this issue, but arguably others. The method Mr Frost suggests would be a very effective way of solving it all, and allow for best customizability, but arguably also the highest entry barrier. On the other hand, why have a broken but seemingly intuitive system?


correcto

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#12 - 2012-01-11 06:38:26 UTC
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)


You're confusing states with appearance. States has no priorities and no way of altering the order of it. You can make fleet members show up yellow in background even if they have a mediocre sec status even if in fleet, or you can have the purple override all, but they will still suffer from the exclusive list of states.

If the states tab was inclusive we wouldn't have this issue, but arguably others. The method Mr Frost suggests would be a very effective way of solving it all, and allow for best customizability, but arguably also the highest entry barrier. On the other hand, why have a broken but seemingly intuitive system?

Try harder.

Flying logi, you kinda need to know how to do things like this. I know *MY* logi overview only shows fleet members(no matter what their standings) so I am inclined to think the fact that yours doesn't is a pebcak error, no matter how many of you fail to learn to configure it.

Its not intuitive to make it work right, if you think it is that might be your core problem right there Bear

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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#13 - 2012-01-11 07:49:59 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)


You're confusing states with appearance. States has no priorities and no way of altering the order of it. You can make fleet members show up yellow in background even if they have a mediocre sec status even if in fleet, or you can have the purple override all, but they will still suffer from the exclusive list of states.

If the states tab was inclusive we wouldn't have this issue, but arguably others. The method Mr Frost suggests would be a very effective way of solving it all, and allow for best customizability, but arguably also the highest entry barrier. On the other hand, why have a broken but seemingly intuitive system?

Try harder.

Flying logi, you kinda need to know how to do things like this. I know *MY* logi overview only shows fleet members(no matter what their standings) so I am inclined to think the fact that yours doesn't is a pebcak error, no matter how many of you fail to learn to configure it.

Its not intuitive to make it work right, if you think it is that might be your core problem right there Bear


If so then please post your settings since I tried pretty much everything and also the wiki @ eve uni tells the same thing i have trouble with.

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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#14 - 2012-01-11 08:18:29 UTC
COMM4NDER wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Tanith YarnDemon wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Jonny Frost wrote:
In the olden day's it wasn't possible unless you assigned standing.

When you remove for example neutral standing, all them randoms that are in your fleet are removed. So you'd need to set all your fleet members to Excellent standing or something. The same difficulties arise when you want to display only your corp/alliance unless your CEO/Director is on the ball with setting standings...

Personally think it should be a LOGIC structure where you can add a number of different rules of who to display or NOT display.

Example:

SHOW neutral standing OR good standing OR excellent standing AND fleet member

You can, they have priorities.

Change the order in the filter list, higher priority rules take precedence. Just gonna understand the rules(good luck figuring them out)


You're confusing states with appearance. States has no priorities and no way of altering the order of it. You can make fleet members show up yellow in background even if they have a mediocre sec status even if in fleet, or you can have the purple override all, but they will still suffer from the exclusive list of states.

If the states tab was inclusive we wouldn't have this issue, but arguably others. The method Mr Frost suggests would be a very effective way of solving it all, and allow for best customizability, but arguably also the highest entry barrier. On the other hand, why have a broken but seemingly intuitive system?

Try harder.

Flying logi, you kinda need to know how to do things like this. I know *MY* logi overview only shows fleet members(no matter what their standings) so I am inclined to think the fact that yours doesn't is a pebcak error, no matter how many of you fail to learn to configure it.

Its not intuitive to make it work right, if you think it is that might be your core problem right there Bear


If so then please post your settings since I tried pretty much everything and also the wiki @ eve uni tells the same thing i have trouble with.

Gonna take some time. Just got a new SSD raid setup, and am having to reinstall everything. As soon as I get a functional client going from my backups, I'll post a link to my overview file.

Prepare to laugh tho, it mostly fails ;)

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#15 - 2012-01-11 08:59:52 UTC
Sorry if I misunderstand something, but the state filter

"Pilot is in your fleet"

does not satisfy your needs? Make a FLEET tab and uncheck all the other states, and you will only see your fleet members.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Guide just advises unistas to keep non-fleeted friendlies on the same tab, which is not a bad idea.

.
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#16 - 2012-01-11 09:32:02 UTC  |  Edited by: COMM4NDER
Roime wrote:
Sorry if I misunderstand something, but the state filter

"Pilot is in your fleet"

does not satisfy your needs? Make a FLEET tab and uncheck all the other states, and you will only see your fleet members.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Guide just advises unistas to keep non-fleeted friendlies on the same tab, which is not a bad idea.




It does not work since if you uncheck everything but "Pilots in your fleet" then it will remove people from overview if they are in your alliance but also in your fleet etc. Issue is that you cannot set priority or chose logical gates like other people in this thread posted.

I want to have only fleet members in one tab called fleet, is that to much to ask for?

Also please read the eve uni overview guide = Overview Guide
"Note that this preset will show all pilots in space, not just fleetmates."

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#17 - 2012-01-11 10:51:06 UTC
Ok, I see now. It has not been designed to accommodate fleets of mixed pilots from various corps or alliances with neutral standings.

Yeah, this should be like the colours tab, if you could set their order it would work.

.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#18 - 2012-01-11 10:59:40 UTC
COMM4NDER wrote:
Roime wrote:
Sorry if I misunderstand something, but the state filter

"Pilot is in your fleet"

does not satisfy your needs? Make a FLEET tab and uncheck all the other states, and you will only see your fleet members.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Guide just advises unistas to keep non-fleeted friendlies on the same tab, which is not a bad idea.




It does not work since if you uncheck everything but "Pilots in your fleet" then it will remove people from overview if they are in your alliance but also in your fleet etc. Issue is that you cannot set priority or chose logical gates like other people in this thread posted.

I want to have only fleet members in one tab called fleet, is that to much to ask for?

Also please read the eve uni overview guide = Overview Guide
"Note that this preset will show all pilots in space, not just fleetmates."


iirc it was something ********... Like dragging the entry up the list.

Sorry, E-Uni is not the end all be all of eve knowledge, any more than goon wiki is.

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COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
#19 - 2012-01-11 21:13:52 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
COMM4NDER wrote:
Roime wrote:
Sorry if I misunderstand something, but the state filter

"Pilot is in your fleet"

does not satisfy your needs? Make a FLEET tab and uncheck all the other states, and you will only see your fleet members.

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Overview_Guide just advises unistas to keep non-fleeted friendlies on the same tab, which is not a bad idea.




It does not work since if you uncheck everything but "Pilots in your fleet" then it will remove people from overview if they are in your alliance but also in your fleet etc. Issue is that you cannot set priority or chose logical gates like other people in this thread posted.

I want to have only fleet members in one tab called fleet, is that to much to ask for?

Also please read the eve uni overview guide = Overview Guide
"Note that this preset will show all pilots in space, not just fleetmates."


iirc it was something ********... Like dragging the entry up the list.

Sorry, E-Uni is not the end all be all of eve knowledge, any more than goon wiki is.


what entry.

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Logix42
Taxation Damnation
#20 - 2012-03-28 00:56:27 UTC
Anyone figure out a way to do this yet?

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