Crime & Punishment

Bebop seriously can't do it themselves?

Your alliance is 100x better at killing things than the station hugging derptards you'll get in here.

I like the image, all so true. Thank you for the smile.

Not sure if Brave is a very good example to make your case to be fair.

They were absolutely confident in their ability to beat our 20 man highsec PVP alliance in a fight over a structure. At least that's what their stratop announcement mail said, and what they spammed in local up until the point where all their stuff started blowing up.

And anyway, we're a highsec PVP alliance which, by the logic typically employed by elitists means any group from any other type of space, no matter how bad, should be able to beat us in a straight fleet fight.

The reality of course is that the kind of space you live in doesn't have anything at all to do with how good you are at blowing up spaceships in general, it only indicates the type of space you're most familiar with operating in, which would be obvious if people made any attempt to apply actual thought to their opinions.

Brave and Brave Squids are absolute garbage alliances, even in their native environment, so when they come to an environment they aren't familiar with and fight an alliance that is both extremely familiar with that environment and significantly above average in terms of capability out of the various groups that live in that environment the outcome is a forgone conclusion. They weren't ever going to win.

But reality doesn't help people's egos. So people will maintain that any Low/nullsec group > Any highsec group, regardless of actual facts.

Except, if you actually checked, which I'm sure you won't because facts may conflict with your preconceived ideas, almost every highsec PVP group you'd care to mention has more than a few kills and losses in various kinds of space.

But, like I said, before don't let reality get in the way of your baseless elitism.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but if it's Brave I don't think you can fly Tengus and Eagles with 3 million SP.

They actual fleet of noobs we fought were RVB, who actually did a much better job than brave, since they were able to kill stuff, didn't run away and weren't spamming local constantly.

What I thought you were saying is that we killed a bunch of 3 million SP characters with our alts which we bought with plex (I think some of our players have alts they bought with ISK, not particularly sure if anyone bought plex to do that). What you actually said apparently makes even less sense.

First thing you said was that you have lots of respect for brave and that they've done great things. Now you're telling me that they're all noobs who bought their characters with plex and that beating them is nothing to congratulate yourself about.

I'm really not getting what you're putting out here. How can Brave be amazing and obviously better than us because of their accomplishments in structure grinding, but also be someone we would obviously be able to beat in a fleet fight over a structure.

It's almost as if they're bad, or something?

You realize when we fought brave it was literally over structures. Their structures, which had timers set to their prime time.

Technically it was over forty structures, but after they managed to do nothing but lose stuff without accomplishing anything the first two times they gave up.

must have been a bad fc, or no fc, did you manage to slip a spy in on there coms?

@loyd, i actually multiquoted so its me whos mad, get it write sychophant.

Vimsy are you srspoasting about beating Brave in highsec? tf