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The negative reviews of EVE on steam

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#21 - 2015-12-23 02:52:20 UTC
Filthy Infidel wrote:
the mainstream EVE players that has to much invested to be negative.
Yes, the EVE forums certainly are the last place where you will find any criticisms of EVE. We're all smiles around here.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-12-23 03:52:05 UTC
Linna Excel wrote:
I've read that when people tell you why they don't like a game, they are probably right about what's wrong with it. Yahtzee was completely right about there being a lack of space dragons.

It's very positive right now, so I wouldn't worry too much.



Not just Space Dragons.

Where are the rideable Fedo Unicorns for the Captains Quarters I ask you ?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#23 - 2015-12-23 04:07:52 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Stupid people have stupid opinions based on their stupid activities within EVE. Stupid people might read them and decide to not bother. Smarter people will investigate further an/or recognise whine "reviews" made by stupids.

I don't see a problem.


Half of the population has below average intelligence.

So when "stupid people" are paying the bills, it doesn't really matter if "you see the problem" or not.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-12-23 04:22:02 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Half of the population has below average intelligence.

That's not how averages work.

For all we know 2/3 of the population could have far above average intelligence. 1/4 of the pop is so dumb as to bring the average IQ down to about 110%. The rest is WoWers.
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-12-23 04:50:45 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Linna Excel wrote:
I've read that when people tell you why they don't like a game, they are probably right about what's wrong with it. Yahtzee was completely right about there being a lack of space dragons.

It's very positive right now, so I wouldn't worry too much.



Not just Space Dragons.

Where are the rideable Fedo Unicorns for the Captains Quarters I ask you ?


Well, CCP had plans to release those, but then monoclegate happened.

I can has blogging skills!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-12-23 05:09:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Crumplecorn wrote:
Filthy Infidel wrote:
the mainstream EVE players that has to much invested to be negative.
Yes, the EVE forums certainly are the last place where you will find any criticisms of EVE. We're all smiles around here.


Ooh, I got the sarcasm this time!! Do you have any idea how hard that can be for someone with autism? Hang on, let me try this as well...

I've never criticised EVE, or its developers, for anything ever. EVE is perfect and the devs can do no wrong. The ISDs are perfect too, and never overextend their authority for anything.

How'd I do?

In all seriousness though, the 'negative reviews' on Steam don't really amount to much in the way of legitimate criticism. There's a difference between "this game sux" and "this game sux because...". There's also a difference between "this game sux" and "I don't like this game". When you understand why an opinion about the game is unrelated to the facts of its functionality, its popularity, and its success by proxy of its age, you'll also understand the difference between objective criticism and subjective ranting.

See, I'm not a big fan of Minecraft. Honestly, you couldn't pay me to play it, it's not my thing. But the the ingenuity that is the foundation of its conception and gameplay as a whole makes it, objectively speaking, a very good game that deserves its popularity.

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Paranoid Loyd
#27 - 2015-12-23 06:14:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do you have any idea how hard that can be for someone with autism?
You do just fine Remi, honestly I wouldn't even know except for the fact that you have mentioned it.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#28 - 2015-12-23 06:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
People are revieving their playstyles. Its obvious looking at their revievs that they dont play this game right. They want to play it like some other kind of game. Like Valkyrie would be perhaps.

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Murmanox
The Trembling Hand
#29 - 2015-12-23 06:44:35 UTC
The highest ranking negative review is a victim of CODE. Now we know who the real villain is.

Quote:
Right after the suicide gank, the guy who killed me sent me a message. He said I was guilty of inattentive mining and mining without a "permit," and if I didn't want other "accidents" to happen to my ship in his company's "territory", I should log online and pay his company some unreasonably high amount of ISK (in-game money) monthly. Say what you want, but this sounds like the mafia to me. The company that produces this game will do nothing, absolutely nothing, not a damn thing about these people. They simply allow it to happen. I refuse to play a game that supports the mafia.


And here's the first comment/reply.

Quote:
i remember my days of playing halo, counterstrike and other fps games... people got kicked when they team killed or suicided. which is pretty much the same as what happened to you in high sec. They should have just set up a system so that the police track down your gamer tag and put you in prison for x amount of days for destroying another player depending on how much damage was done. boom problem solved. people can still be jerks but their will be a decent punishment. also their ship money etc can be transfered to you to cover your loses. the devs sound lazy. high sec is meant to be a save place.


Did Richard Garriott go back to high school?
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#30 - 2015-12-23 09:22:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Cipher Jones wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Stupid people have stupid opinions based on their stupid activities within EVE. Stupid people might read them and decide to not bother. Smarter people will investigate further an/or recognise whine "reviews" made by stupids.

I don't see a problem.


Half of the population has below average intelligence.

So when "stupid people" are paying the bills, it doesn't really matter if "you see the problem" or not.


They're free to leave forcing CCP to shut down non-EVE and non-essential EVE projects, back to a better EVE.

Compare it to WOT: I'm not some elitist saying that anyone with more than 5k games played while below 49% WR and 1200 WN8 is a fcking moron who should be laughed at and kicked out. Some people are just better, some are worse, some care less or have bad internet or whatever and as long as someone is showing a pulse and brain activity he'll do semi ok. What I AM saying is that we really don't need 20k games 42% 600 WN8 shitclowns in their inevitable E100, JP E100 or Waffle E100 who **** up the game for everyone. They're below the threshold, too stupid to be called human and we can do without them just fine.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#31 - 2015-12-23 09:38:04 UTC
Filthy Infidel wrote:
No actual flying involved, no piloting, no cockpit view, just a 3rd person spreadheet management game with ridiculous subscription fees played mostly by lying **********"


whenever i see negative reviews like this i see it as a grrr code moment

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-12-23 09:44:31 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Stupid people have stupid opinions based on their stupid activities within EVE. Stupid people might read them and decide to not bother. Smarter people will investigate further an/or recognise whine "reviews" made by stupids.

I don't see a problem.


Half of the population has below average intelligence.

So when "stupid people" are paying the bills, it doesn't really matter if "you see the problem" or not.


I think you mean median, not average.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#33 - 2015-12-23 09:49:01 UTC
Ripard Teg wrote an article about Steam reviews, back in 2014:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/the-strangers-viewpoint.html

Most of it would still ring true. EVE haves a godawful reputation among strangers. And those strangers are the only people left to maybe try it and maybe like it and maybe subscribe... if they overcome the bad reputation.

And once they subscribe, they have a 10% chance to become long term players.

CCP's efforts to improve retention are doubtful at least. The efforts to attract new players are downright abysmal. Reading the patch notes is a depressing exercise if you look for anything that could grab the attention of potential non-players. What kind of subscription business grows by giving up on new subscribers? None that I can figure.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#34 - 2015-12-23 09:54:17 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
CCP's efforts to improve retention are doubtful at least. The efforts to attract new players are downright abysmal. Reading the patch notes is a depressing exercise if you look for anything that could grab the attention of potential non-players. What kind of subscription business grows by giving up on new subscribers? None that I can figure.


what new player reads patch notes when deciding to play a game?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#35 - 2015-12-23 09:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Ripard Teg wrote an article about Steam reviews, back in 2014:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/the-strangers-viewpoint.html

Most of it would still ring true. EVE haves a godawful reputation among strangers. And those strangers are the only people left to maybe try it and maybe like it and maybe subscribe... if they overcome the bad reputation.

And once they subscribe, they have a 10% chance to become long term players.

CCP's efforts to improve retention are doubtful at least. The efforts to attract new players are downright abysmal. Reading the patch notes is a depressing exercise if you look for anything that could grab the attention of potential non-players. What kind of subscription business grows by giving up on new subscribers? None that I can figure.


That article is terrible which isn't really a new thing for him, anyone going "look at how awesome E:D is" clearly hasn't played it and/or hasn't been paying attention. Also, 10% long term retention is amazing. Stop making up boogie man stories to try and further your cause, it's not working and everyone sees right through it.
Solecist Project
#36 - 2015-12-23 10:04:36 UTC
I keep typing ****** pig wrong... :/

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#37 - 2015-12-23 10:18:56 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Ripard Teg wrote an article about Steam reviews, back in 2014:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/the-strangers-viewpoint.html

Most of it would still ring true. EVE haves a godawful reputation among strangers.
User reviews: Very Positive (3,343 reviews)

But this is something of a red herring anyway as review writers... aren't strangers. If someone who doesn't know a game writes a review, it can be dismissed out of hand.

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-12-23 10:23:09 UTC
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005923854/recommended/8500/

LOL that first negative review. Is this a stealth grr CODE. thread?

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Solecist Project
#39 - 2015-12-23 10:25:48 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Ripard Teg wrote an article about Steam reviews, back in 2014:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/the-strangers-viewpoint.html

Most of it would still ring true. EVE haves a godawful reputation among strangers.
User reviews: Very Positive (3,343 reviews)

But this is something of a red herring anyway as review writers... aren't strangers. If someone who doesn't know a game writes a review, it can be dismissed out of hand.

People who read his crap will agree with him.

The rest wonders if he ever undocks...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#40 - 2015-12-23 10:41:18 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Ripard Teg wrote an article about Steam reviews, back in 2014:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.es/2014/05/the-strangers-viewpoint.html

Most of it would still ring true. EVE haves a godawful reputation among strangers.
User reviews: Very Positive (3,343 reviews)

But this is something of a red herring anyway as review writers... aren't strangers. If someone who doesn't know a game writes a review, it can be dismissed out of hand.

People who read his crap will agree with him.

The rest wonders if he ever undocks...


I think she reads too many blogs, if its on the internet it must be true huh

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*