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I'd erase T3 and Caps from the game if it was in my power.
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Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#21 - 2015-12-21 14:41:55 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-12-21 15:18:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.

That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-12-21 15:27:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.

That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.


Well it sure is more funny to burn it than to take care of a yard. Trenching it can work too.
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#24 - 2015-12-21 15:31:49 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.

Oh wait......

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#25 - 2015-12-21 18:05:15 UTC
Mithandra wrote:
Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.

Oh wait......

That never happens on these forums regardless so it's hardly worth joking about

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#26 - 2015-12-21 19:01:14 UTC
It's a freakin' sandbox!

If you want to get rid of these ships it's well within the few rules to strap on some guns, find a few like minded people, and go remove them. One at a time. With bonus tears sure to follow.

Mr Epeen Cool
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#27 - 2015-12-21 19:07:49 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Mithandra wrote:
Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.

Oh wait......

That never happens on these forums regardless so it's hardly worth joking about


It was dark humour so it's allowed

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
Hochopepa
Creative Research and Production Services
#28 - 2015-12-21 19:10:52 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.

Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).

Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.

Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.

...Meh, ten years too late.



Actually kind of the way it was originally...
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#29 - 2015-12-22 05:53:49 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.

That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.



.... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career.
Thayden Reid Nordic
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#30 - 2015-12-22 06:09:50 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.

That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.



.... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career.


Nobody cares how old your character is, stupid ideas don't age.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2015-12-22 06:26:11 UTC
Stupid ideas will survive eve online, that's for sure.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-12-22 06:30:42 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.



Wrong. I will never be happy.

But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.


My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.

That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.



.... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career.



I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#33 - 2015-12-22 08:20:26 UTC
This game needs all T3 tech it can handle.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#34 - 2015-12-22 08:55:25 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it.



There is more evidence to support the possibility of my having these toys than there is to assume I don't. I am very much a billionare, same as most of the veteran community.

And for the low low price of 500,000,000 isk, you too can share in my wealth of secrets. Act now!
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2015-12-22 16:49:19 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
Pretty short sighted but whatever...


This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".

What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").

Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.


Why do you make so much sense? STAHP!!!

Thank me later :D
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#36 - 2015-12-22 17:03:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.

It would be just like living in highsec.

"You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that."
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#37 - 2015-12-22 17:20:01 UTC
Mithandra wrote:

It was dark humour so it's allowed




That was not dark humour.



THIS IS DARK HUMOUR.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#38 - 2015-12-22 20:59:44 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.

It would be just like living in highsec.

"You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that."

Exactly. Blobs.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#39 - 2015-12-22 22:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#40 - 2015-12-22 22:45:28 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.

It would be just like living in highsec.

"You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that."

Exactly. Blobs.


It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems.

Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem.