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Tarax
Zealot Heavy Industries
Salty Sailors Federation
#1 - 2015-12-22 14:27:25 UTC
Is anyone else having trouble with api.eve-marketdata.com being down for days now?

Other than Eve-central, what do you guys use in your spreadsheets to get active market prices for items?

Thanks
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#2 - 2015-12-22 14:39:02 UTC
Yeah it's down. The guy who owns it doesn't play anymore so it seems the autopilot stopped working.

I've always used eve central and it's been the most reliable. You could potentially use some of the new crest based resources out there too. Fuzzworks has some resources I think. Might want to try there first.

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Tarax
Zealot Heavy Industries
Salty Sailors Federation
#3 - 2015-12-22 14:44:10 UTC
I'm using google spreadsheets and the eve central API seems flaky. I often have to go make a minor adjustment to the api's URL to force it to recalculate, otherwise it just sits there saying "N/A". Not sure why but it's driving me nuts. You use google spreadsheets? maybe I should just switch to excel.

Also, do you have any links for this "crest" based resource? i've not heard of it.

Thanks much

Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#4 - 2015-12-22 14:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
I use the app in my signature instead of spreadsheets, so I'm speaking from a coding perspective. Crest is ccps restful api, which gives you access to realtime data. Here's info:https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/CREST_Getting_Started

It's more of a coding resource as its a pain to work with in spreadsheets but I think a few have created ways to make calls for them. Fuzzworks being the best one I know of. Also, eve-industry.org has a few useful APIs as well. I'm not sure what data you are looking to get though. Lastly, maybe check the tech forums for more info than here.

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SJ Astralana
Syncore
#5 - 2015-12-22 23:50:31 UTC
If you're surfing T1 production prices, EPM is the best data mining tool without exception. You don't even have to use the damn thing, simply configure a factory and hub system, plug in an API key or two, wait a day and you get a sorted list of the most profitable items to build. Arguing against the Market Research Report is frankly... somewhere between stubborn and stupid. I'm clocking 21+bil/month profits and every other tool out there comparatively is flatly a waste of time. As a bonus, configure it completely and it'll track your real profits including all indirect costs. I'm at a loss as to why I can't even give it away. Is it because people prefer to invent wheels?

I'm going to take the liberty to post a recent comment I received. I hope the author won't mind, as he's been publicly supportive previously: "As you instructed I've tried to pick spiky items. And love it the first time one I thought was dead forever pop back up in to the 15m+ profit factor. Without EPM none of what I've accomplished would be possible. Before finding EPM I fought with IPH for a very long weekend and lost my mind."

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Zad Murrard
Frozen Dawn Inc
Frozen Dawn Alliance
#6 - 2015-12-23 07:07:29 UTC
Eve central still gives okish results.
As for gdocs it is recommended to move to some other solution than the native importxml such as:

1) importXML2 - Replaces importxml. Google finds some version, haven't tested it and cannot say if it works. Personally using a self made version, have posted a link somewhere in the forums for it. Will add features/fixes to it if someone requests.

2) Fuzzy's scripts - They work more on idea that you download the whole xml to a separate sheet and then use vlookup to get the field you are interested in.

Last I checked there was a way to get crest data to your gdocs. Unfortunately Crest api has limits, you cannot query for more than 1 item/query and there's some query rate limit. Haven't tested, but I'd guess it might not work so well for bigger sheets.
Haffsol
#7 - 2015-12-23 07:17:27 UTC
SJ Astralana wrote:
If you're surfing T1 production prices, EPM is the best data mining tool without exception.

[ [.....]

Before finding EPM I fought with IPH for a very long weekend and lost my mind."

Not going to argue about the rest but using IPH for T1 production is a bit overkill. Also, not for people who loses their mind after trying it for a weekend. Damn, for a weekend? I've been using it for 2 years now and it's still kicking.
Haffsol
#8 - 2015-12-23 07:21:37 UTC
By the way, I got a bit lost too with the death of EMD, after eve-marketeer I got used to it and it was simply another great site for industrialists and price checking. EVE-Central..... well...... it works.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#9 - 2015-12-23 07:49:15 UTC
Haffsol wrote:
SJ Astralana wrote:
If you're surfing T1 production prices, EPM is the best data mining tool without exception.

[ [.....]

Before finding EPM I fought with IPH for a very long weekend and lost my mind."

Not going to argue about the rest but using IPH for T1 production is a bit overkill. Also, not for people who loses their mind after trying it for a weekend. Damn, for a weekend? I've been using it for 2 years now and it's still kicking.


Perhaps but it excludes a crucial figure: competitors -- which are easily mined from live data. "SVR" last time I checked was quite simply a wtf conclusion of fallacy. I challenge any EIPH/spreadsheet user to assert anything resembling my demonstrable and API-verifiable results. My guess is that the frustration in the comment to me was primarily about the noise that floats to the top of EIPH. I had the same complaint years ago, and quite recently it was equally useless. (And don't troll me about the months post-Crius where EIPH was dead in the water because of the quality of the underlying code. EPM was down for 8 days -- 10x faster to deliver. Simply a reflection of comparative quality tbh.) The inability to filter out the **** and the complete failure of keying into the relevant factors make it simply a massive negative value proposition. Which where I come from simply means a complete ******* waste of time.

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Haffsol
#10 - 2015-12-23 11:43:52 UTC
Yeah well as I said I didn't mean to argue about EPM since it may be absolutely the best thing ever (and I'm not kidding) but I never used it so..... I was just saying that IPH is not the tool every day-1 industrialist shell use to figure out what kind of T1 stuff to build.

As for the state of things post-crius and IPH, well it was simply not working, nobody used it in those days obviously and it's true it took few months to be released but you know, better late than never, it's not that Zifrian nor any other one is paied by CCP for what they do right? And most of the time they should since the game is just impossible to play without these tools, and I'm putting EPM in the lot without any doubt even if I haven't personally tried it.

As for "SVR" I don't know but I think it's a CREST related issue rather than a tool's flaw. Talking in general here, not only about IPH.
Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
#11 - 2015-12-24 05:42:08 UTC
Eve IPH suggested I build and sell ammo of various kinds. Okay, I thought, cheap entry to the field, probably won't make me a lot, but it should get me started.

EPM tells me, correctly, that I was losing my shirt. So now I'm researching some of the BPs EPM recommended. We'll see how it works out. BTW, there seems to be a lot of POS structures on the EPM recommended list, but it doesn't seem to me to be good to go with that stuff, since a) it looks like one item gets sold every couple of months, and that doesn't seem very profitable, especially with half a dozen or so units on the market, and b) POS are going away soon, so what would be the point?