Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I used to think Battleships could use with some love, However I'd rather think they need a good tweaking.

Battleships are when they get to the fight, quite absurdly good barring a select few, The Scorpion, Even Armor fit, is outclassed by Recons and ECMgu's. The scorp obviously tanks better but the cruiser size just avoid dps and tackle far easier. And the Rokh due to the Naga being so much more cheaper is often left out. Although a triple XL-ASB blaster Rokh is incredibly trollish and fun to **** around with.

The thing that most people get annoyed in with battleships is the fact that they are (Battleships) very annoyingly slow and tedious to move around without compromising an integral part of its ability of a battleship. Like Tank, or DPS. Which isn't really a bad thing, the main problem is a T3 can match it's tank and close to it's applied DPS, and get around much faster, without the need to compromise the fitting in any way. Not to mention they also manage cap better, expect for the proteus who cap is very very weak. And a Plated proteus is about as agile as a plated battleship. However it still gets faster align times, faster warp speeds and small a sig radius.

Battleships are on the great ships to get into a fight with. It a long drawn out fight with tons of interactivity thrown in, with cap management, drone management and positioning that it really starting to shine, both in fleet and solo pvp. The only major issue is that T3's do it all, faster and with T2 resist profiles.

Nerf the T3C's to a balanced level and you'll probably see battleships coming out of the woodwork.


Though of course since it took forever just to get the defensive subsystem nerf to finally drop who knows how long until we see CCP actually finger it out, I **** really imagine it'll be soon.

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No it does not. Buffing things invites a different set of unintended consequences (skynet is the example here too). Those unintended consequences can be collectively called "power creep".

I used to ridicule the 'nerf culture' of CCP, but now I understand it, the potential unintended consequences of nerfing (such as under use of a ship or item that previously saw a lot of use, like Ishtars)), while imperfect, is more acceptable than the potential unintended consequences of buffing things (such as the buffed thing eclipsing the thing it was just supposed to 'just' compete with, thus becoming something that needs to then be nerfed, wasting developer time and company money that could have been used doing cool things).

EVE is choked full of history of buffs gone wrong, and not just with ships and modules (buffing rewards to Faction Warfare post 2011 is a good example), while nerfs have been less problematic, even though nerfs are less enjoyable playerwise (I miss my Gila low slot...).

I just spent the whole past weekend flying machs and rattlers. My corpies flew everything from tempests to ravens.

WE HAD A BLAST!!!!!

Flying straight away from a BS in a frigate/destroyer is currently a standard practice. If you don't know what that means - you aren't ready to fly a BS anyway.

BS are currently awesome bait boats. The inescapable call of the ratting raven has spilled over into most BS hulls. I will recommend that in lieu of complaining about how bad BS are, get in one and go get your pvp on. Most of the pvp drones out there have no idea how to deal with them. A solo BS, sure gank away, but put 4 of them on the field together and add 2 or 3 support ships and some really nice things will happen.

You need to come to terms with BS not being the main blob ship of choice anymore. There are just better options. The 'no BS' fleets are a combination of 2 things. 1. They warp across eve at BS speed, which is too slow for most folks. 2. Everyone and their brother can fly dreads/carriers, which are alpha proof 362 days of the year.

With the current size of alliances any reasonable FC will pick speed (BC and below) or alpha resistance (caps). BS not having super speed or alpha resistance doesn't make them bad. It makes them a bad choice for large fleet fights. For med to small gang they are the cat's meow. Solo - we've all seen those vids.

You guys are wanting BS to be something they are not instead of enjoying the awesomeness that actually are.

Most fun i had in a fleet was in curse, we dropped 5 rattlers and a carrier onto a test ratting raven, before we knew it we were blobbed by around 90 test kitchen sink frigs, cruisers, recons, bombers, it was funny the fc said "free fire", the rattlers tore through the frigates like they were nothing, shame they had to bring in the dreads to kill the carrier or we would have tore the whole fleet apart.

and my Nightmare? or a Rokh?

all battleships

ALL CAPS




.... you're right. It's not the same anymore.

Exactly what I was saying. That is all they need.

And OP, the guns you are looking for are called medium and small turrets.

The problem with one ship is never due to another ship. This is a battleship problem and changing other ships to try and fix the problem will only result in more problems.

Battleships are too weak and it makes no sense! We need more BS only mods to get past some of the weaknesses... Or they should all be able to use the bastion module to make then unique from other classes

battleship pvp is dead.