Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The Most of us that have been playing Eve For Years. have watched the Game Change like we have Never would of expected,


Cruisers, Frigs, Destroyers, recently battlecruisers, and Soon Capitals and Super capitals. but for some reason Battleship Have Barly worth mentioning, soon Dreads will have the Option to put the Beatdown. on Battleship and battlecruisers(To an Extent)


(Cause:1)As Long Lived avg battleship pilot myself, i kinda Fee Left out, recently CCP spoke about the changes to carriers, and it makes me think. When you See a Battleship what is its Role. it all depends on the Battleship. Me personaly I see battleships in some cases Gun Platforms Prime and Ready. to Put the Beatdown on people, other battleships i See as Gridholders ships that Have The Hardwere to hit anything Nearby by anymeans Loaded with guns Able to Target, Hit,Track, Ships of any Type, without the "NEED" for Ewar but not easly Held down by 3-4 Frigs And pounded on unable to Fight back, Due to the Natural Fitting of the ship. mainly the Shild fit Ships. Certain armor ships

Ships that Can in fact Hold Their own. Mainly pirate ships

some battleships should have Exceptionaly high Tracking(DPS low) and or Weapons mods that can cover a 20-30km Bubble alot of people think oh Toss on a Smart bomb. well that comes at a risk 1 if you have droness and person i orbiting you at less then 5k your going to pop your own drones and 1 Large smart bomb not going to Do a whole alot most of the time.


Most battleships Due to Reload pack around 300-600 DPS depending on fit. There needs to be a Battleship exclusive mod. that puts out 250 DPS Capped with lvl 5 (requires Testing/balence) that can Track and hit Small class ships inside that Range. for Turreted battleships only(i fly caldari mainly) the struggle is not there to "hit" small ships but for ships like the Rohk, Abaddon, Megathron, Apoc, Tempest, Maelstrom, Scorpion(we have to talk about that one #oddball #bestshipingame), Dominix, wait domi?( nvm GTFO you have drones you micro mini carrier),


Possable Issues you might have
ex:people "Hey madlightning you Srub people are just going to stick a bunch of those mods on a battlleship and Tank the ship to hell and Swarm them", to most Vet players when you look at 250 DPS that is a decent number on small ships. ut when you look at Cruisers and Larger ships+ resists. and movment 250 DPS looks more like 175-200DPS if not less and Battleship should onyl be able to place 1 of these mods in a high slot Lowering its Main Source a DPS to a Degree, and would also take up a decent ammount of PowerGrid/CPU and Can be Dsirupted with Ewar tracking E-War would have a 100-200% effect on this mod rendering it Useless, soo the 175-200 dps. Looks more like 5 dps. and 5-10% Sig increase protection comes at a cost. When your on Grid with a battleship 1 Lone frig non stealth bomber should not be able to perma lock down a battle and kill it with death by 1 mill paper cuts. i have seen it befor. Assault Frigs also They are Much more Beefy and should easly handle the mod without causing Major trouble. the MAX range for this would be 15KM. unless Marauder bastion becomes a "thing"


Null sec people: "whats stopping Huge Fleets of battleships from Cleaning Field in null sec with this anti-craft weapon" 1 well another battleship fleet. 2. a Fleet of capitals 3. bombs. 4. don't titans have the new Doomsday device comming soon(Can't Warp while the Device is active"micro warp?" NOPE,) When your in a small ship and you land on grid with a Battleship it should be like Let me be Smart. or die.


lets call it a D-Fence system this does not have a High Damage ticks But Very Rapid Ticks(Animation of the system is not related) and Can Load Scipts 30-60 sec loading time to Missle/Bomb Targeting because WE ALL KNOW HOW GREAT DEFENDER MISSLES are. it will be auto/toggle mod. can can destroy 10-30% of missles flying through its Field of View unless its 1-2 missles, depending on size of missles S/M/L/C group Capital size missles would Lucky To Destroy 1 meanwhile Rockets will be 80% of the rockets should be intercepted

Please Feel Free to Add/Comment if you Disagree Please DO so in a constructive way all of these IDEA flexable. some may just not be good ideas, but Battleships do need some Love and a Solid place in High/Low/Null sec and WH space to make them stand out.

My :Comment i Seen a 15 person cruiser fleet fight a 6-7 battle ship fleet Was a while ago but the Cruiser fleet got away with 13 People battleship fleet Wiped by Drones. if most battleship can't battle what are they? just ships? They Need to be like battllefield Utility ships there should be a Reason you want FEW on field.

Wanna melt a target? Caps do it faster.

Wanna tank the world? Caps do it better.

Wanna blame your loss on the people around you? Caps do it better.

Battleships got replaced by caps.

I wouldn't hold my breath for any useful roles for battleships coming up soon: we told CCP they were useless over a year ago and they accused us of lying.

i hear you there.
T3 Ships come at a Risk though. T3 ship without a doubt are Better in most way then battle ships but Not everyone can Freely Risk/Lose a T3 ship when ever.

what battle ship with turrets can Fend of frigs out to 15 KM without it being a missle ship or Cramming E-war webs and scrams? Most peopel can Grab a Vendicator double webs micro warp and a scramm and Punch Most people face in without trying. thats it If you are in a Ship that does not get any DPS Perks to it. or tracking your like at a loss,





Edit: Most of what i said is also Far fetched but when i Think battle ship i see a ship as far as sub cap goes, "i am a Battleship I can fight you Frigs and Destroyers bewere you solo can not fight me." but thats not the case Frigs can in alot of case 2-3 frigs can in fact Fight battleships again depending what that battle ships. but yes Alittle Love to some of the battleships

missed the panther and typhoon, id rather undock my mach, rattler or vindi than a t3 tbh

Ah forgot the panther and mach.

He's SMA, they're on a different level. You're expecting too much.

I LOVE CAPS, ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME

Back then you missed the same thing as you are here though. That what you are basing that on is the assumption that there is a super elite player always able to take that ship and destroy everything if it were buffed. With that as an assumption, nothing should ever be buffed.

Additionally, that super elite player will always exist. If they aren't in a battleship killing everything they are in whatever other ship is already powerful enough to kill everything. Hiding from the idea of buffing other ships because of them leave the exact same situation but with stagnant mechanics. Continuously shifting balance helps keep elite players on their toes as well as creating variety of play for everyone else.

The truth is that short of large scale battles, battleships see less use because ships that have been buffed or brought in at a greater level of power are used in their place. Strategic cruisers, T3 destroyers, HACS and AFs are heavily used because they are generally better and more flexible. Balancing battleships is a challenge to make sure they don't get too crazy when in massive blobs, but it certainly shouldn't be avoided because of fear of an elite player using it to do what they do anwyway.

i like the excitment when a fleet goes up saying "need blops" or "battleships needed", you just dont get that excitement from t3's or hacs anymore