Skill Discussions

Agree!!

I hope my suggestions are received as constructive - possible ideas on how to enhance eveboard's excellence.

This is not a good idea.

Here's an example to explain why:--

My current global rank is 37.
#Days since i started EvE 3,851

3851 / 37 = 104. So with your idea i would be pushed down to 104th place and will never ever be able to climb higher.
In fact the older my character gets the further down the ranks i will be pushed.

Every player will decline in the ranks the older they get with noway to ever climb back up.

Altho there is room for improvement... The current system allows any player to climb the ranks regardless of their age, and thus gives everyone a fair chance at climbing the ranks.

Your system would penalise older players forcing them down the ranks with no possible return.

in the current system a lower score = a higher rank, so training to reduce that score is the way to climb the global ranks.
introducing the #days division would reverse that causing a reduced score to push you down the ranks.

So you would need to increase your score to climb the ranks, which would require you to stop training and let everyone else overtake you.

So any player actively training to reduce their score would get penalised and pushed down the ranks

Very interesting idea, but I think a bunch of 1 and 2 day old characters would end up on top.

To test this, I went to the "Average SP/Hour" ranks to find a new character:

"ili2cnt" for example, is a couple of days old, has a rank of 60,715 and an underlying score of 54,818.57. Multiplying by the 2 day age, we get a total of 109,637.

Viggen, on the other hand, at rank 1 has an underlying score of 862.66 but is something like 4,400 days old, for a total of 3,795,704 - a total that would move him way down the ranks.

If you use ANY statistic (be it age or any other stat) in the calculation that only a certain percentage of players have, then you are going to penalise those players against all the other players who don't have that particular stat.

What you want is a global ranking system that treats all players equally so that all players can achieve a ranking position if they put in the appropriate training.

With Eve fast approaching 13 years Online, there is no way a new player can compete with a 10 year vet with regards to ranking.

Something that has previously been suggested is having several duplicate ranking pages each of which lists only players within a particular age group.

For example have 10 copies of each of the ranking pages, page 1 ranks all players up to 1 year old, page 2 all players 1 - 2 years old and so on to page 10 that ranks all players 10 years old and over.

This would be much fairer than adjusting a players score based on theirage or any other statistic.

It will all depend on the base cost of the extractor, and the value the markets settle on for the injectors.
Too cheap and the skill traning system will become obsolete, as everyone will simply buy themselfs to max sp.

Too expensive and only the super rich will use it, leaving everyone else behind.

Either way i think it will be another nail in Eve's coffin.

Your not alone in this. I think a lot of Eve Boards top players are in this boat, me included.

I keep my subs going purely to maintain my characters training. But depending on how much skill trading costs, this may become obsolete. It may become a case of if you can't beat them, join them, or quit altogether:/

I have an alt with approx 22 mil SP. I could transfer 17 mil to my main, who has over 180 mil SP. I calculated that and I would get the worth of nearly 80 days of skilltraining of my main. In case of selling the alt, I could get around 10 bil ISK. 90 days or 3 plexes of game time, what would be the cost of what I could gain, is around 3 bil ISK. Loosing 7 bil ISK, to safe 80 days of skilltraining on a char, which has already some 10 years of training? I would be dumb to do this.

The other way around? Who would actually castrate a 180mil SP char to support a 20+ mil pilot? I am not even willing to think about this.

Those rich people who buy a pilot and skill her (of course it will be a she) up with thousands of dollars to max out all skills? They will be the joke of the game and a favourite target of all low skilled PvPers to demonstrate that she still can be killed - easily by the way, because the player most likely has no idea what he's (of course he is male in RL) doing. Of course everybody will know who this pilot is, because why doing it, without anybody knowing?

A 100+ mil SP pilot who has actually played the game does not need to fear a 300+ mil newbie , who simply has bought the skills. As a result, I don't think, that this will change anything for the pilots which are playing the game for more then 5 or 6 years. On the other hand, it will change a lot for new pilots. Inexperienced pilots with money will be able to win against inexperienced pilots without money, because in this class it makes a difference if you have 4 mil SP or 40 mil SP. I'm sceptic that this is a smart move by CCP to allow this.

I'm quite relaxed about all this. It hardly will affect my gameplay. Depending on the costs of extractors and injectors I probably will shift some skill points on my 22 mil alt to streamline him before selling him. Cause I have decided to sell the chars on that account and close it afterwards long ago.

Am I missing an update to eveboard?

Command destroyers & Logistics frigates are not showing up on my skillsheet.

I might just be bad at this game, I probably am.

None of the links seem to be working, so can`t find out how to update my character/acct