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Current Ship Trends in FW
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Luna Yotoila
Feel the Sun
#1 - 2015-12-19 19:16:03 UTC
Hello I know that is not a really easy question or maybe it is, I don't know.

Can some of the old Vets tell which hulls are most common in FW? I know this will always change depending on game balance changes. But usually if your doing a lot of PVP what are the most common ship hulls that you see.

Sofar what I can tell when I lookup streams.

T1
Tristan
Kestrel
Breacher

Faction
Navy Comet
Navy Clicer

And I have another question. If I want to do some FW what are the "easy to master ships" that have low skill requirements and are easy to fly.

I'm new to PVP and just want to search for some other stuff to do.
Master Sergeant MacRobert
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#2 - 2015-12-19 21:35:46 UTC
Didn't the Hookbill just get a DPS buff?


All of the following are suitable:

Executioner
Tormentor
Slasher
Breacher
Incursus
Tristan
Kestrel
Merlin
Condor

However you can have a great deal of fun setting up someone in one of the other frogs too (or mining ships/industrials).

"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
unidenify
Deaf Armada
#3 - 2015-12-19 21:47:34 UTC
Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
Didn't the Hookbill just get a DPS buff?


However you can have a great deal of fun setting up someone in one of the other frogs too (or mining ships/industrials).


yes Hookbil get buff in dps
25%/level for Kinetic
20%/level for other 3 damage
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-12-20 00:27:21 UTC
There is only one king in the north and his name is Comet.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#5 - 2015-12-20 03:42:27 UTC
Scram kite, try em all :)

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George Gouillot
MASS
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2015-12-20 14:35:33 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Scram kite, try em all :)


Griffin Navy, jam em all
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
#7 - 2015-12-20 23:23:14 UTC
theres no other Tale then the Firetail
ivona fly
Black Fox Marauders
Pen Is Out
#8 - 2015-12-21 11:35:46 UTC
Fly rifters, they OP!
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#9 - 2015-12-21 22:38:59 UTC
warzone dependant tbh. there is very different fighting styles in both warzones.

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Ace Lapointe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-12-22 03:51:23 UTC
My Megathron..
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#11 - 2015-12-23 01:45:12 UTC
Anyship with warpcore stabs. I recommend also learning russian or french and joining one of gal mils many farmer alliances dedicated to blueballing.
Ace Lapointe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-12-23 01:47:11 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
Anyship with warpcore stabs. I recommend also learning russian or french and joining one of gal mils many farmer alliances dedicated to blueballing.


No! No! No!

Bad advice! Farmers are cancer! That and now with the Navy Maulus running around they are kinda dying off unless they are in bigger ships with more Low Slots! Twisted
Ray P
Unquestionable Prosperity
Commonwealth Vanguard
#13 - 2015-12-31 05:39:34 UTC
Luna Yotoila wrote:


And I have another question. If I want to do some FW what are the "easy to master ships" that have low skill requirements and are easy to fly.

I'm new to PVP and just want to search for some other stuff to do.




Punisher is the easiest ship to skill into. no drones, can fit any guns you have trained so if you don't plan sticking with amarr you don't have to train lasers, good dps even with low skills because not relying on a hull bonus, good tank because of all the low slots, generous fitting resources and a lot of lows that can be used for fitting mods or zero cost mods like resistance plating nano's and overdrives for players with bad fitting skills.
Arla Sarain
#14 - 2015-12-31 17:33:35 UTC
Ace Lapointe wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
Anyship with warpcore stabs. I recommend also learning russian or french and joining one of gal mils many farmer alliances dedicated to blueballing.


No! No! No!

Bad advice! Farmers are cancer! That and now with the Navy Maulus running around they are kinda dying off unless they are in bigger ships with more Low Slots! Twisted

NMI don't counter blueballing.
They promote it.

There used to be AFK farmers.
Now there are farmers that will avoid everything that's not a probe or a magnate.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#15 - 2015-12-31 19:16:44 UTC
It really does vary, in my corp it is tristan, kestrel, firetail, malediction, talwar, thrasher, and caracal. In the groups that we fight such as dng those ships arent that popular except the tristan and firetail. I would say thier common ships would be punisher, slicer, retribution, coercer, dragoon, omen, maller and aug navy issues. So very different ships even in the same wz.

It also matters a great deal what sort of pvp you are looking for, for example we use talwars all the time but no way are you gonna find me solo in a Talwar, if I am solo I am probably gonna be in a firetail. And if I am "solo" in a malediction chances are I am tackle for a fleet.
Shadow's Revenge
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-01-05 21:08:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Shadow's Revenge
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
There is only one king in the north and his name is Comet.


Daredevil, the comet's bigger, more deadly brother... And first in line for the throne. (See ingame bio)

I also rather enjoyed flying the Heretic recently, though neither are low SP. Low SP I'd read what the guy above said about the punisher.

Denver, Colorado

D.G.C
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-01-06 07:28:19 UTC
Shadow's Revenge wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
There is only one king in the north and his name is Comet.


Daredevil, the comet's bigger, more deadly brother... And first in line for the throne. (See ingame bio)

I also rather enjoyed flying the Heretic recently, though neither are low SP. Low SP I'd read what the guy above said about the punisher.


How do you fly a DD anyways?

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-01-06 07:51:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Desideratus
The thing with ships like the DAREDEVIL, is that it's easy to lose if you don't fly to it's strengths.

It has massive damage, but the tank is kind of mediocre. So what happens is if you put it in situations where it is a straight up brawl you're likely going to lose it, depending on what you are fighting and how many friends they have warping in.

What the DAREDEVIL also has, however, is SPEED and RANGE CONTROL.

This ******* ship is so goddamn fast, it makes me wish I trained Min / Gal frigate to level 5. It's faster than most Interceptors.

90% web means you can range control virtually anything if you pilot it properly.

It's a solo-pwn-mobile if ever there was such a thing.

So you fly it like a ******* DAREDEVIL
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#19 - 2016-01-06 08:10:00 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
How do you fly a DD anyways?


They're something of a Marco YOLO machine. You don't get many mistakes in one before you die.

I like DDs, but have recently fallen in love with the Dramiel.

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#20 - 2016-01-06 08:30:39 UTC
Luna Yotoila wrote:


T1
Tristan
Kestrel
Breacher

Faction
Navy Comet
Navy Clicer

And I have another question. If I want to do some FW what are the "easy to master ships" that have low skill requirements and are easy to fly.





None of ships mentioned is "easy to master ships" that have low skill requirements and are easy to fly. Except Navy Slicer, which is one trick pony (kite or die)

You can try something with huge tank (so you will not die instantly, but have at least 5-10 seconds of engagement, when you actually can do something).

How about passive shield tanked Merlin?

Punisher could be other choice, if it would ever get 3-d middle slot. With its actual layout you will always miss webifier.

I often fly brick tanked tristans, but if you are not that low in ISK you can try any navy frigate - they all have better tank, then any other T1 frigate. Tristan is so popular becuase it can be fitted as brawler, scram kiting or disruptor kiting ship. Or vimpire. Shield, armor or even hull tanked. No wonder there is so many tristans in FW. No other T1 frigate will give you that number of combat combinations. I dare to say that even with Navy comet in mind ;) All that also means it is not easy to skill and to fly.

Breacher with ancillary shield booster can be very interesting option as well. Unlike other active tanking frigates it will survive some vimpire actions. Other active tanking frigates, like Incursus, is not easy to fly, IMHO.

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