Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not sure if this thread has already been created.

But wouldn't it be better if Neuts, Dracliras, and Smartbombs actually show on the Turret Hardpoint of the ship, rather than just an empty space on the turret hardpoint?

Then we should remove the turret and launcher models?

And it's not free. Getting a scout there, or putting yourself in the line of fire to see what he's got isn't free. I'd like every high slot item to have a visible model on the ship.

warp at 100km, move forward 1m, click "look at". Not really putting yourself in the line of fire, unless its an alpha nado.

Some fits rely specifically on the element of surprise, and seeing a prophecy/myrm/magus/tristan/domi etc with all neut high's, RR, etc or a maller with 5 smartbombs will give away free intel and may make some avoid fights. Yes, you could speculate that with a 0 turret maller now, but some are fit without guns and are just major tanks.

This also means cyno's will be visible, which again completely removes that as a surprise element. Say what you will about hot droppers/BLOPs/bait etc, but its a valid game play mechanic and they rely almost completely on the element of surprise. No one (smart) would ever fall for the cyno procurer sitting in a belt, trying to bait an enemy gang that frequents their space. Or chasing your hurricane in a moa, just so you'll engage and get dropped by 5 BLOPs.

Maybe a compromise? What about a standard utility model when the slot is filled, but you don't know by what. Or maybe it becomes visible only when in use (bay door opens, utility mod raise up and is then visible). Similar to how torpedo/cruise launchers look.

Accessible intel isn't free intel. Every high slot item type should have a unique model displayed outside the ship, including inactive modules such as the drone control range boost module.

They are nosferatus, OP ;)

You generally dont have a fleet/group of bait ships. You have one. Lets say you had a drake or raven setup for baiting with a cyno and were ratting in a belt. Maybe a cloaky camper is in the belt watching. Sees you have a cyno and never engages. Now the bait is never taken and we are now losing content/tactics just so we can see utility highs. As opposed to current mechanics where its unknown short of a ship scan.

Once you see the new cyno module, then you will know what it is. Its not hard to type in cyno into market search and then show image to see how it looks. Not to mention after a few days people will know what most of the modules look like. This doest include those testing on SiSi before the release.

So hotdrops should be risk free? That is after all, the other side of the coin.

Hotdrops are never risk free. You have apparently never seen when a hotdrop goes wrong with a counter drop. Just like in the scenario i just described.

Example:

Lets say you have a cloaky camper in your ratting system who likes to drop your ratters with BLOPs or a super. You make a BAIT raven or whatever to your liking. You sit that bait ship in a belt/anom and wait. Cloaky camper is in there watching you. Uses "look at" and sees a cyno module. Do you really think hes going to fall for it then? Why would a ratter have a cyno on their rave for any other reason than to counterdrop/bait?

Cloaky camper ignores the bait and continues along camping. Content/tactics lost, all because we wanted to see a thingy in our utility slot.

This is not an unusual scenario either, and i know when i lived in null we setup counter drops fairly frequently to bait the campers/regulars.

This would remove that scenario and only catch the idiots. Which is not how something is balanced.

Counter Intel at it's finest.

Public service announcement: if you ever see one of my ships in space, especially my PVE Ships, please be aware that I always have a cyno fitted. Consider yourself warned.