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smaller frigate or barge sized command ship
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Kruenix Gearsworth
Yuki Hama Space Jumpers
#1 - 2015-12-15 06:07:43 UTC
I'm tossing out the idea of an exploration frigate or barge...maybe something in-between, which ORE can put together to serve as a command vessel for small-gang mining operations and operations in space too hazardous for an Orca or Rorqual. A ship that can fit one command link and packs some decent cargo space for hauling.

fly safe o/
-Krue
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2015-12-15 07:11:07 UTC
That role can be filled by using either one of the new command dessies or a simple battlecruiser and its' T2 variants.
Kruenix Gearsworth
Yuki Hama Space Jumpers
#3 - 2015-12-15 07:41:07 UTC
True, but their hauling capabilities are abysmal and none are focused for mining ops...no survey scan boosting, for example
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#4 - 2015-12-15 08:22:01 UTC
This thread is refundant.

I know, b/c I have asked CCP to overhaul the mining boosting ships into Destoryer/BC and repurpose Orca/Rorquals as heavy mining fleet support - Compression, storage, spare ships. While the boost get tied into smaller huals that are able to defend mining ships.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#5 - 2015-12-15 12:52:52 UTC
If you cannot see a value of linking your buddies in a command destroyer and jumpin the lot out of harms way if needed, I doubt we can be of help.

As I said in another thread, we have too many ships already. Next thing you know someone wants a ship that helps you undock and another boat to avoid gatecamps and another boat that jumps only from tradehub to tradehub and yet another boat that magically makes soopers when you board them.

Imagine your own tactics damnit! 19% is good enough, take it or leave it.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#6 - 2015-12-15 13:15:36 UTC
I'm going to have to toss the idea right back at you, I'm afraid

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-12-16 06:35:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Kruenix Gearsworth wrote:
I'm tossing out the idea of an exploration frigate or barge...maybe something in-between, which ORE can put together to serve as a command vessel for small-gang mining operations and operations in space too hazardous for an Orca or Rorqual. A ship that can fit one command link and packs some decent cargo space for hauling.

fly safe o/
-Krue

I had put in a suggestion a while back to split the Orca into two ships:
1.) a battlecruiser-sized Industrial Command Ship which has mining foreman and defensive bonuses and can assist the mining or defense, whichever it prefers, by fitting either mining lasers or weapons.
2.) a mini-capital hauling vessel which can fit ganglinks without bonuses and has mostly just a lot of hauling capacity for mining op support.

The first one would require the link skills but not the capital skills. The second would require the capital skills but not the link skills.

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#8 - 2015-12-16 11:38:20 UTC
personally, I'd like a CD with bonus to mining links, seems like something ORE would do..... particularly in light of how the orca, rorq and bowhead came into existance,

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#9 - 2015-12-16 14:09:58 UTC
Xe'Cara'eos wrote:
personally, I'd like a CD with bonus to mining links, seems like something ORE would do..... particularly in light of how the orca, rorq and bowhead came into existance,


Maybe but Outer Ring Excavations are the most un-combat related "pirates" in all of New Eden. They master excavations like no other with ships meant to fly in the harshest of conditions and sneak into hostile space even.

If you disregard the Machinaw and Procurer, they don't have any combat ships or at least the small defences they have do not compete with Caldari Navy forces.

Why would they concieve a combat vessel now?

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Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#10 - 2015-12-16 14:18:17 UTC
I think it would be nice if they had a pair of ships-- leadman(destroyer) and Foreman(battlecruiser) bonused for foreman and siege links. They could be more defensive/combat oriented, intended as guards of mining ops.
Jerghul
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-12-16 14:23:31 UTC
Mike Voidstar wrote:
I think it would be nice if they had a pair of ships-- leadman(destroyer) and Foreman(battlecruiser) bonused for foreman and siege links. They could be more defensive/combat oriented, intended as guards of mining ops.


That is scaled nicely to the newest additions.

Though a cloaky miner command destroyer class to go with endevour and whatyamacallit icethingy class would be the perfect matchup.

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Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-12-16 16:49:33 UTC
Kruenix Gearsworth wrote:
I'm tossing out the idea of an exploration frigate or barge...maybe something in-between, which ORE can put together to serve as a command vessel for small-gang mining operations and operations in space too hazardous for an Orca or Rorqual. A ship that can fit one command link and packs some decent cargo space for hauling.

fly safe o/
-Krue


Yeah and please give it the boosting ability of an roqual without the downsides and while we are at it we could make it a miner too so it can have hulk yield , mack ore hold , skiff tank bubble imune and instawarp thx.

So enough sarcasm.

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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-12-16 19:17:57 UTC
Again...

This was discussed a number to times... Look back further. And for the love of god, NO MICRO ORE COMPRESSORS!
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-12-16 19:20:05 UTC
Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-12-16 19:23:16 UTC
This was the outcome:


3 High Slots - 0/0 Turrets/Launchers
4 Medium Slots
3 Low Slots
2 Rig Slots
400 Calibration Points

900 Shield HP
EM 60%
Exp 10%
Kin 25%
The 35%
750 Armor HP
EM 0%
Exp 50%
Kin 40%
The 20%
750 Hull HP
EM 0%
Exp 0%
Kin 00%
The 0%

Drone Capacity: 40m3
Drone Bandwidth: 25 Mbit/sec
22,000m Targeting Range
350m/sec Max Velocity

ORE Frigate bonuses (per-level)
10% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage
4% bonus to all shield resists

Expedition Frigate bonuses (per-level)
3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links
4000m3 bonus to ore bay capacity

Role bonuses:
95% Reduction to power grid requirements for mining foreman links
50% Reduction in Cloaking Devices CPU requirement
- Cloak reactivation delay and targeting delay reduced to 5 seconds
- No penalty to ship max velocity when using Cloaking Devices
- Can use Mining Foreman Links
- Can only equip 1 Mining Foreman Link

There was additional talk about replacing the cloaking bonus for a probing one.