EVE New Citizens Q&A

Range Scripts simply do not work in Missile Guidance Computers. it is a known bug but apparently being ignored:

Bug Thread Here

This is not really a new player topic though, wrong forum.

Dunno if it is still the case, but it was reported recently that missiles were not travelling to expected range.

In one test report I read, missiles fired on the same immobile target did not consistently hit it at any range (even 0m), and had far less than the expected range.

Example: rockets fired upon an immobile battleship at 0m did not hit.

Might want to do your own tests and file a bug report if necessary.

Perhaps, missile range is not really pure range from your ship, but its maximum flight path length - i.e. how many km it flies on its real trajectory? So if it has i.e. to chase something, that range would effectivelly decrease ?

missiles have always had a bit of a fudge factor. the OP simply posted a range and the possibility to hit that is for all that I know exactly within the fudge factor. If a MGC range doesn't work that is unrelated.

Although if something is following you then you get a bit of bonus range. I've been taking advantage of that with the rocket garmur, and suitonia has a nice pvp video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6XaVJhcRQ

Wow...do they really account for the size of the ship? If that's true, then this is quite the attention to detail!

The listed range on missiles is calculated by multiplying the flight speed by the flight time. Missiles have acceleration time so that listed number is not exact the actual range is slightly less than the listed range. However it is only slightly. The listed range is pretty close to actual.

I may have misunderstood but what I gather from reading this thread is that the OP has a range listed of somewhere around 90 -91 without his MGC turned on and he can hit stationary objects at about that range. He turns on his MGC and his listed range goes up to about 99 yet he still can only hit things from about the same range as with it off.

Yes there is a bit of a fudge factor but if your listed range is 91 and you can hit things at 90 but don't at 91 then if you turn on a module that says it increases your range to 99 then you certainly should be able to hit stationary objects at 95 for example.

Maybe I misunderstood but that is what I took from reading the beginning part of this thread.



I'm not sure if they take that into account for ship size but I do know that they do with jump gates. So for example the size of a jump gate is determined by the distance between the connecting gates. Some of the gates in this game with large jumps between systems can be huge.

Your distance from the gate is your distance from where the edge of the gate is rendered and your spawn point which is randomly located somewhere 12 KM from the edge of where the gate is rendered can be a very large bubble of potentiality on bigger gates. When trying camp the gate and decloak ships larger gates can make things significantly more difficult, or at least that is how Jester explained it anyways.

I just did an extensive test and found some really weird data. I used an ibis with LML and tested actual ranges with different modules loaded. I tried it both closing in as moving away (to account for Auto Pilot inaccuracy) to the nearest 100m. This is what I found.


- no modules online:
3750 x 5.5 = 20625 range from ammo stat
20km indicated on mouse over launcher icon
Actual range: 19000m

Consistent with losing some 5-10% due to missile acceleration


- 1 x Guidance Enhancer:
3918.75 x 5.75 = 22532.8 range
22km indicated
actual range: 23700m

WTF, that is beyond max range, let alone when accounting for acceleration, by about 5% (difficult to really calc due to AP inaccuracies)


- 1 x Guidance Computer with range script:
4050 x 5.94 = 24057 range
24km indicated
Actual range: 24700

Again, beyond max range by about 3% (see above)


- 1x GE + 1x GC
4208.4 x 6.17 = 25965.8 range
25km indicated
actual range: 25400

Only some 2-3% below max range which is weird due to missile acceleration, but below what was expected given the earlier findings

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As the findings are silly I rechecked them but came to the same conclusions:

- missiles without guidance mods behave as expected taking missile acceleration into account
- missiles helped by either GC or GE (didn't check for multiples) perform above expected and even above max range
- missiles with both GC and GE are even weirder, somehow


No idea what to think of this.

That is actually a good point, I didn't think about that. Still weird that it so consistently performed that way but I'll retry with long flight time missiles to, mostly, eliminate that problem.

so there is a way to time alignment time to coincide with ticks?