EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi Lulu, PI is not one of my strong points so I don't know the answer to your question but I wanted to return the wave I didn't get to in local the other day, I was a little busy fighting a hilariously fit dual tanked Arbi.

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Dont just extract raw materials. You want to process them as much as possible on the surface before exporting.

Usually you extract 2 resources, process them, and feed them into an advanced processor, then you export that advanced product to the market, or another planet for further processing

if you balance your extraction rate with the rate you can process the materials to a final product, it usually balances out to 2 day cycles with 4 processors, 2 advanced processor, and the materials will replenish fast enough that you dont deplete

also, just use the lauch facility as your storage, its big enough, and saves you cpu/pg

with lvl4 skills your PI will usually end up looking something like this: http://i.imgur.com/LLnwsYF.png

this is a basic single-planet product you can easily sell (its used in POS fuel): http://eveplanets.com/eve/components/index/show/Enriched+Uranium

lvl5 skills on a good nullsec planet you could squeeze out 3 advanced processors, 6 basic,

Oh man that is one funny fitting,
he was prepared for all the edge cases,
soo much utility for one hull ,how ever did you overcome it.


On topic yeah I think it's regenerative but don't quote me on that.

It depends on what you are producing, and if you are focused on one product

Once you're properly setup, PI is a matter of cycling your extractors every day or so and collecting goods once a week'ish. The ISK is around the 500m/month/character, or better, depending on *effort* and your choice of goods to produce.

'Better' involves producing P2 goods (Coolant, Enriched Uranium, Construction Blocks, etc) or higher tiers. Which in turn, means factory planets for any kind of efficiency and mass production. If you're running multiple characters for PI, one of them should make the train for CCU V. My P1-P2 factory planets are 3x Launchpad, 2x Silo, 21x Advanced Industry Facilities, with full 'hoppers' and extra stashed in the POCO, I only have to run out to them every ~4-5 days and they produce ~2,400 P2s a day.

Extraction and processing into P1 is best done in 0.0 space or in Wormholes. Any plan that involves regularly hauling P0s (raw materials) around should be avoided, down that road madness lies.

Direct-To-P2 extraction/factory setups are very low effort and equally, very low yield. ECUs chew up enormous amounts of powergrid and running two of them with associated links cuts down on total output.

The thought of doing PI on a planet without a POCO makes me shudder.



actually, you seem to have a pretty good grasp of it.



my extraction planets are pretty much identical except i tend to run eight basic industry facilities. always route to a buffer and keep those links nice and short wherever possible.

nice.

edit:
Factory Planet. The Launchpads feed the ten factories at the top, the silos feed the eleven at the bottom. Expedited Transfers are used to shuttle P1s to the silos. All factories route to the 'empty' launchpad.

P1-P2 Factory CCU V

Extraction -> P1

Very cool pics thanks for sharing, Mephiztopheleze

I'm about a day and a half away from being able to do 5 worlds so I'll try this factory thing out then. I like that layout it looks sharp.

Small Radius is actually critical when trying to fit everything on a factory planet.

However always do the figures. It is very common that upgrading to a higher resources actually drops them in value. That is because you are competing with people in losec and WH space that are happy to lose a bit of ISK on P4 just to reduce the number of hauling runs back to a hub they need to make.

Smuggling through losec its often ISK/m3 that matters rather than maximum profit per planet.

when I set an extraction planet up, I usually let the ECU run for about a day to fill up the silo buffer storage, then put in the factories.

The silo full of P0 keeps the factories fed and helps iron out extraction overruns and shortfalls.

yeah, it gives you a little wriggle room for cycling the extractors. mostly it just means that the six or eight or whatever number of basic factories you have setup keep cycling, so you can better judge how much you're producing.

If you go down the factory planet path, I suggest building up a decent stockpile of P1s before building the factory planet (or converting an extraction planet to a factory). This will save you many, many headaches later on. Around 100k units of P1s is plenty. You'll need 26k of each to fill the input Launchpads and another 40k of each can be stashed in the POCO. My setup holds some 65k of each input on the planet (1x Silo + 1x Launchpad) and 40k of each in the POCO. I can restock the inputs from the station undock (or inside a POS) and it saves me a lot of shuffling around in Epithals.

Just FYI, here's my Epithal fit (if you can't squeeze on the large shield extender, use a medium or a powergrid rig)

[Epithal, PIPro]
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I
Warp Core Stabilizer I

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I