EVE General Discussion

It has more to do with what you want to go there for?

1) Use cheap ships you can fly well.
2) Don't worry about D-Scan, let them find you.
2a) If local is too busy for your liking, find one with only a few players in it.
3) Set all players in the settings menu to show yellow, that way they're easier to see on the side display.
4) Do what ever you want in your quiet areas of Low or NPC Null.
5) Always fit your rig for PVP.
6) Fight every ship that is aggressive towards you, then make a friend.
7) Don't use implants.

If you run out of money, go back to high sec until you can afford to lose it all again playing the game you want.

I made this post to receive help, not to be mocked by you, but obviously you couldn't tell as judging by what you said. What you said does not improve my situation in any way and simply exists to mock me, It shouldn't exist at all and is quite impolite. Also, you can't really say i'm a "Grown man" as I started playing when I was 10 or 11. I'm only 16.

Good day.

Friend, you are 100% right about the troll who posted.

The thing is, most of not all of the players who hang out in Low Sec have a similar view
about the game and just enjoy bad mouthing people and really don't care to be good sports, because
they feel somewhere in the EVE manual it allows trolls to get a pat on the back for being mean.

I'm 51 years old and the fact that you actually care to be polite and considerate speaks volumes about you
as a person. None of these so called EVE PVP experts would ever say the things they do online if they had
friends over for a game of chess, so take it with a grain of salt that they are just small people mentally who
some how get off by trying to insult those who are brave enough to ask questions.

If you look at any post from an OP, there will immediately be trolls filling the thread just to be stupid. Doesn't matter
what game.

As I mentioned before, ignore them and play your game.
Fly a cheap venture and start ninja mining or even the free ones in LOW / Null sec and look around.
See if you can fill the ORE hold before dying. It will be fun, you'll see. Don't do it for the money, just the
experience.

Yep, that's always funny.

It's like the same kind of stuff you see directed at CODE and other suicide gankers.

The fact is most of those lowseccers probably have highsec characters too, maybe a nullsec alt, or a pvp toon in wormhole space. Same can be said for a lot of CODE pilots and gankers. Generalizations about players per the region they fly, or style they play, is silly because we play in a game where having multiple 'lifestyles' is pretty common place. You never really know who you might be talking to when you're telling that CODE pilot they're a sociopath and don't know how to PVP because that one character suicide ganks barges.

Ok, Noted, thank you.

Gotcha, thank you.

No specific advice. Just a general nudge to jump that 0.4 border sooner rather than later.

I feel much safer in low sec than high sec.

Mr Epeen

No reason to disbelieve you, as you tend to be one of the better posters (more well balanced and informative) on these forums.

Is it they're afraid, or is it they don't really know how to get started?

This game is not very good when it comes to in-game communications for new players.

There's rookie help which is ok, but only available for 30 days.

There's the help channel that tends to get used as a general chat channel mixed in with help, so not so good.

NPC corps are not very effective as at least in some of them hardly anyone says anything, even questions can go unanswered, probably because as they aren't used much players probably rarely look at them.

There are various types of safespots.

The most commonly thought of safespots exists somewhere out of range (more than 14.3 AU) from any celestrial, but they often cannot be made, it depends on the size of the system, you may have to compromise and end up in range of one or more. If so try to pick a spot that isn't in range of a station or gate at least.

To make one, warp between two distant objects, between two planets or asteriod belts on opposite sides of the system for example. Open up your bookmarks and create a bookmark while you are in mid warp, note that when you click finish (or OK) on the create new bookmark window that is when it is actually created, not when you open the window. To make an even safer safespot warp back to the first bookmark from a different direction and drop a second bookmark while in warp. This bookmark won't be in line between two celestrials and people won't see you flash up briefly on their overview as they warp past which is a risk with an inline safespot between two celestrials which the first one will be.

Generally speaking you only need such very safe safespots in null or wormhole space and then in systems that you frequent a lot. In low sec and more infrequently visited system you can get away with droping a bookmark while in warp between two gates. No it isn't perfect, but it is better than nothing, get in the habit of setting up such safes in every new system you pass through. Later make better safe if you use a particular system more often.

However, the more important safes that people have been talking about are perch, pounce, docking and instaout safespots.

Perch: Set up on grid from a gate or station, typically 180-300 kilometers from the said object so that you can warp to the safe, look, then warp down to the gate/station. Set up by a fast ship (Interceptor?), simply burning out.

Pounce: Set up off grid from a gate or station, typically 1000Km to 1AU away, done by dropping a bookmark as you are warping to the said object, just before you come out of warp. Use to warp to and do a D-Scan of said object, before warping on, particularly useful in null and WH space to check for bubbles.

Docking: Typically done on the undock as you leave station. This bookmark is created at 0m from the station and will guarantee that you land within docking range of the station, whereas warping directly to a station will land you up to 2500m short of the station and may require your ship to burn in the rest of the distance.

Instaout: Set up 300-1000 Kms directly in front of the undock point on a station. Allows you to undock into a hostile fleet and then immediately warp out with almost no align time before they can lock you. Again set up like a Perch with a fast ship burning out the required distance, simply undock, put your MWD on and don't change anything else. Might take a couple of attempts to get a decent one as you can exit the dock at a slightly different angle each time, you want your instaout to be created in a centralised position.

Yes it takes time to do it properly. When I relocate to a new area, I will typically spend 10-15 hours setting up safes. 30 or 40 in my home system and then at least 3 per gate and station in every surrounding system for at least 10 jumps.