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Horiz Rin
Homebase69
#41 - 2015-12-13 15:20:42 UTC
Beatrice Bourdain wrote:
Quality of Life Improvement:


  • Average Pilots in Space in the Last 30 Minutes is harder to use because of point scaling and colour choices - point size could be transformed by an exponent or other option to make the distinction greater, range of brightnesses of colours used could be widened to make it easier for colourblind players to get the important information from the map.
  • I use the old map to plot courses through space that look for certain sized system populations - in the old map these scale from very small to very large with a great deal of granularity. In the new map the size of this marker for the smallest case of 1 person in space is the size of a marker that in the old map would be many tens of people. The colour graduation that goes with this is quite difficult for myself as a colourblind player to make out. In short I find it very difficult to discern very sparsely populated space from busier space in the new map. In addition seeing the plotted route with this overlay is hard when zoomed out.





Pretty much exactly what I wanted to say.

The colours look great in a stylish and minimalistic way - but totally useless to actually get any information from.

Fix - provide an option to switch from sexy and stylish to 'in your face' primary colours.
Zekora Rally
U2EZ
#42 - 2015-12-14 09:47:37 UTC
Quality of Life.

I can't see the red dot indicating partly scanned sigs. I have to squint to see it. Same goes for the probe cursor, i can't see it at all. Please, make it more legible like on the old map. Thanks.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#43 - 2015-12-14 10:25:37 UTC
Luchius wrote:

-I would like the ability to toggle whether the solar system map is super-imposed over the current system I'm in.


Could you expand on what you mean here and include use cases and if possible a mockup screenshot?

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Captain Panther
Development institute
C A M E L O T
#44 - 2015-12-14 11:57:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Panther
Missing Functionality

  • Local system view on the global star map can be very intrusive and makes difficult to plan the route on-the-fly. Please add overview mode without the local system content on the galaxy map.


Detailed Info

Look at this case:
1. I'm in system A and want to jump into near system B through the jumpgate. I see that system B has 3 connections (lines) with other systems as well.
2. I jump through the gate and local system view (on the global map) changes to the system B also messing the connection lines to adjacent systems due to stargates reposition on local system view, making it realy difficult to find out where to jump next.

I want to see star connection pattern on the galaxy screen with no connections moving due to stargate positions in local system view. And shifting connections makes such kind of navigation very unfriendly. I want to be able to use global map without the detailed local system view. I don't need local system content most of the time i just want to see the gate connections pattern for a nearby stars and be able to easily jump in them.
I've searched all of the interface and wasn't been able to find any option that might switch off local view. Sorry if i missed it.

Basicaly i want this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1291a6qw19yamrc/b2.png?dl=0
Instead of this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4p5l14nt3fyqa2/b3.png?dl=0
It's almost ok when gates are near the sun but on b3 you can see northern gate is on the outer ring and this kind of position often makes me disoriented while trying to navigate.

PS: i can use Select constellation feature to have the similar effect but it feels a bit hacky as i can select the system and must reselect constellation again to remove local system view.

SATRO - канал рекрутинга ФВ ПвП корпы Space Traffic Control альянса Heiian Conglomerate. Ведем набор пилотов соответствующего направления для роумов по лоусеку в составе флота Альянса и форматного просева рядов галлов! :)
Captain Panther
Development institute
C A M E L O T
#45 - 2015-12-14 12:04:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Panther
Quality of Life Improvement


  • When i have selected system on global map and then use Select constellation the constellation gets selected ok, but selected system had all local content dissapeared while gate connection point are still pointing on (invisible now) gates instead of the star. I expect selected system flush to work in this case as if i select another system so connection points are reset to point to the star.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/il2feqrp61a8k7a/b1.png?dl=0

SATRO - канал рекрутинга ФВ ПвП корпы Space Traffic Control альянса Heiian Conglomerate. Ведем набор пилотов соответствующего направления для роумов по лоусеку в составе флота Альянса и форматного просева рядов галлов! :)
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#46 - 2015-12-14 22:01:51 UTC
Scrap this project. You just improved the map and now your messing it up.

- Spend the time on redoing the UI on planetary interaction.

- Start working on the next structures

There is lots to do and the map is not one of them.
Thomas Meagher
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-12-14 23:17:55 UTC
Quote:
Basicaly i want this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1291a6qw19yamrc/b2.png?dl=0
Instead of this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z4p5l14nt3fyqa2/b3.png?dl=0
it's almost ok when gates are near the sun but on b3 you can see northern gate is on the outer ring and this kind of position often makes me disoriented while trying to navigate.

PS: i can use Select constellation feature to have the similar effect but it feels a bit hacky as i can select the system and must select constellation again to remove local view.


This is REALLY needed please CCP!


And really.... Just take the old map, put a new background on it, make the lines / dots shinier. BAM! New map.Smile
Zekora Rally
U2EZ
#48 - 2015-12-15 00:09:13 UTC
There are a few elements of the beta map that I do like such as the ability to resize the map and still focus on what's going on in the background and the legibility of scanned sigs and bookmarks which makes it easy for me to fill in siggy after scanning a bunch of sigs in a go instead of filling it one after the other. With this change, I can easily identify the scanned sigs I have attached to certain bookmarks.
Soltys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2015-12-15 02:21:30 UTC
Quality of Life

- dimming everything around on zoom kills this map's functionality. This is literally anit-map feature. The longer explanation is here. The shorter example from that post, presenting the same area of space:

new map: http://imgur.com/UKRSzhp
old map: http://imgur.com/IFzYeGo

Which one would you prefer to use in practice ?

As mentioned in the longer post, the 3d view suffers much more from this than abstract view. Mixed with other features - extra dimming everything more than 2 jumps away, more quiet coloring options (such as ships destroyed in last hour) - and you end with seeing almost nothing

- labels are near unreadable - on further zoom they are hidden, on closer zoom they fall into the same issue as above

- there's no way to control line's color; they are now dilligently interpolating from one star's color to another and there's nothing we can do about it

- toggle for black background, seriously ....

- toggle for turning off/squeezing/anything_similar merged solar map (similar post here)

Jita Flipping Inc.: Kovl & Kuvl
Captain Panther
Development institute
C A M E L O T
#50 - 2015-12-15 16:46:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Panther
Quality of Life Improvement


  • Local system view that is accessible from the Probe scanner (not sure if it even applicable for this thread). Please make the red signature small dots more colorful because they're too dim and blending with the other dark stuff on the map (background for example). It is VERY hard for a slightly colorblind person like me to find them.
  • When i mouse over the signature in the list the red dot becomes lighter and is well visible on the map. I prefer this color to be the default for unhighlighted signature. And please make it even more lighter or bigger when i mouse over the signature in the list. Please help colorblind persons like me, thanks :)

  • Please take a look at my previous post, i've corrected it a bit.

SATRO - канал рекрутинга ФВ ПвП корпы Space Traffic Control альянса Heiian Conglomerate. Ведем набор пилотов соответствующего направления для роумов по лоусеку в составе флота Альянса и форматного просева рядов галлов! :)
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#51 - 2015-12-16 13:18:27 UTC
Going to lock this thread for now folks, as the team is off on vacation and so will not be able to push any changes or process any more feedback for the moment. Thanks so much for all the replies thus far - we've got a great table of fixes and improvements that is sitting with the CSM for their input, and then will be prioritised within the team.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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