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EVE by the numbers

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solrac lara
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-12-13 22:10:35 UTC
Hello fellow capsuleers i have to say love eve its my favorite sci fi franchise and i love numbers and explosions too thats why i decided to make this thread.

Here i will include different calcs about eve weapons yield and other stuff regarding size and fleets numbers i hope you like it and if you have anything to include or correct it would be great!.

Reschard V event

Some relevant quotes.

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A second on-site report from the Servant Sisters of EVE a few hours later includes a preliminary estimate of 88.7% extinction of surface life forms


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Along with our preliminary estimate of life form extinction, we expect sea level to have risen, covering at least two thirds of the existing landmass, the remaining surface being largely scorched.


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"but it seems to be clear that the explosion, whatever the source, was of planetary magnitude. We are facing almost full polar cap meltdown


Reschard vs the K-T event

Killcount

Basically almost 90% of the lifeforms on reschard V died in few hours, thats horrible and impressive at the same time to give you an idea of the scale of that event ,if we compared it to the real life event of the cretaceous - Paleogene extinction event, where over 75% of the lifeforms perished over a considerably longer period of time ( dozens to thousands of years).

Basically during the disaster of reschard V a greater percentaje of lifeforms died over a considerably shorter period of time probably mostly due the blast instead of secondary long therm effects like on the K-T event.

Scale

According to the earth impacts program these would be the effects caused by the asteroid that killed the dinousaurs 65 million years ago.

over 240 teratons of TNT would be delivered something like 5 million tsar bombs the impact would cause a massive fireball and worldwide earthquakes coupled with a massive rain of fire due fragments of rock failling over the planet again heating the surface of earth, causing a nuclear winter and acid rain that would kill a great percentage of the plant life.

Now we have reschard V

First we must take in account the size of reschard V, reschard V has a radius of over 37000 kilometers while earth has a radius of 6375 km, here an illustration from devian art to give you guys an idea on the massive scale we are talking now, reschard V would be as big as gallente prime and then they mention the following on the article.

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Along with our preliminary estimate of life form extinction, we expect sea level to have risen, covering at least two thirds of the existing landmass, the remaining surface being largely scorched


Basically over 1/3 of reschard prime was escorched by the blast we know that earth continents have a total area of 149.085.205 km*2 and thats like 25% of the total surface of the planet then we have reschard V due its size reschard V area should be 17203361371 km*2 if we assume that the water/land relation on reschard prime is similar to earth then we get this number 4300840342 km*2 and according to the article 1/3 of the land surface got scorched 1433613447km*2 or 9.5 times the total land surface of earth basically had the DD device been detonated on an earth like planet and all of its surface would ve been scorched which actually seems consistent with a picture we have from reschard V after being bombarded. Now do a mental exercise and replace gallente prime with reschard V those firestorms are large enough to cover the entirety of earth.

Reschard V calcs

Now its possible to quantify this event ? well i tried but mybe im wrong here are my calcs.

Reschard V radius = 37000 KM

Reschard V circunference = 2PI x R

Reschard V circunference = 232477. 8 KM or 232477856 meters
Now we can see a massive firestorm on the planet and alot of smaller ones and there is one almost at the south pole of the planet so it could be say that at least that half of the Surface recived enough energy to cause fires. Now i dont know how much energy is required to cause a fire so im going to use the affirmation of nukemap where es mentioned that 35 calories / cm2 are enough to set dry Wood on fire, So we have the following

Energy required to set dry Wood on fire = 35 calc/ cm 2

35 calc / cm2 = 1464400 joule / m 2

R = 232477856 meters m/ 2
R = 116238928 Meters

Now if im not wrong inverse square formula would go like this

Energy/ 4PIR*2 = 1464400 joule / m2

Energy / 4PI 116238928*2 = 1464400

Energy = 16979037e17 x 1464400

Energy = 2.4864102e23 or 59.4 Teratons

So the amarr DD device should have a yield of at least 59.4 teratons and its heavily implied that titans are capable of tanking DD devices.

Or on the other hand we can assume that reschard V poles are similar in size than earth then we would require up to 1.13×10^25 joules thats like 2.7 petatons worth of energy thats like enough to kill all life on earth many times over which sounds consistent to what happened on reschard V.

So basically there are hundreds of lifewiping flying nukes on new eden quite impressive huh?

And there is more, the doomsday device that struck reschard V was the pre dominion doomsday device which was an aoe blast instead of a focused laser like todays pos dominion doomsday device, this means that only a fraction of the energy hit reschard V and most of it went to space ( sorta detonating a nuke at high atmospheric altitude) and that small fraction was enough to melt the poles and set a good portion of the planet in flames for days/weeks.



solrac lara
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-12-13 22:44:05 UTC  |  Edited by: solrac lara
Missiles and other weapons

New eden is a place full of violence where killing is something trivial due the immortal and amoral nature of capsuleers and we know that we also know that new eden is placed on the far future of the 22th millenium so as other sciences weapondry has advanced over the years to the point that capsuleers shot each other with stuff we can only dream for.

First we have missiles those are heavily used by the caldari and the ninmatar but how powerful are they ? first i have to thanks Esna Pitoojee since in a way he helped me with these calcs including them on a threat i made in this board before but i made some modification on said calcs.

Here we have a mjoilnir citadel torpedo according to its descryption it makes use of nuclear weapondry to deal damage and we have nuclear weapondry and we 21 century humans know a thing or two about them so its possible to extrapolate a yield.

Missile warhead radius = 4.5 meters

Lenght= 34.6 meters

Volume = 733 cubic meters

Density of lthium deuteride = 798 kg

Mass = 584934 kg lets say that just 25% of the mass reacts ( similar to RL missiles )

Mass = 146233.5 kg

Number of moles = 16430730 moles

Number of atoms = number of moles x Avogadro number

Number of atoms = 9.8912997e+30 atoms

Each pair fusing releases up to 17.5 MeV worth of energy

So energy = (9.8912997e+30 / 2) x 17.5

Energy = 8.6548872e+31 MeV

Converte to J we get the following

1.3866664e+19J or 3.3 GT since capital lasers have similar damage outputs it could be argued they have similar yield.

Now if you use the yield to weight ratio of the R-36 you get a yield of 1.29 GT.

I got the radius and other dimensions by importing the pictures and counting the number of pixels, of course problem is that the nuclear warhead on the descryption is a "baby" warhead so it could have a smaller yield but we can use another type of missile here the same calcs but with the nova heavy assault missile whos descryption threats it as a nuclear weapon.

Missile warhead radius = 0.36 meters

Missile warhead lenght 1.65 meters

Volume = 0.22432529361 m3

Mass = 179.011584302 kilograms ( assuming that lithium deuteride has a densitty of 798 kg/grm although its density varies under different pressures) now we know that not 100% of the fusion fuel reacts during a nuclear reaction although i read something about 40% efficiency ofc new eden its placed on the future and maybe they archieved perfect eficiency but we will use 25%

Mass = 44.7 kg

Number of moles = 5594.1 moles of lithium deuteride.

Number of atoms = avogrado number x number of moles

Number of atoms = 3.3693337e+27 atoms

Each pair of atoms fusing releases up to 17.5 MeV worth of energy so

Energy = (number of atoms/2) x 17.5 Mev

Energy = 2.948167e+28 MeV

Or 1.12 Megatons of TNT considering how tengus launch barrages of 5 every few secs well.

Projectile weapons size

This is an image i though it was intresting.

http://i.imgur.com/t9X1dWj.jpg

And its posible to make some calcs too!.

doing some scalling the pillar shaped part of the 3500 mm projectile is 9.26 meters tall and the cone shaped part is 6.74 meters tall now we can calc the total volume of the projectile.

Volume of the cone shaped part = 21.6 cubic meters

Volume of the pillar shaped part = 89.09 cubic meters

Total volume = 110.6 cubic meters

Now if we use a depleted uranium projectile we can get an estimate of the kinetic energy carried by the projectile.

Depleted uranium density = 19100 kg/m3

19100 x 110.6 = 2114210kg or 2112 tons

Speed = ?

Well we dont know the speed of EVE projectiles although they seem to hit instatly their targets so im going to use 2 esitmates

low end 250 km /sec and high end2500 km/sec

Low end =6.6069073e+16 J or 15.7 megatons

High end = 6.9125e+18 J or 1.65 gigatons