EVE General Discussion

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Me what haha?

Since when?

I lived out of a POS with no one but me, myself and my alts for a while. Was it tougher/earned me less isk? Absolutely, as it should be. If you choose to live solo, accept the consequences (what does the second 'M' in MMORPG stand for again?)

You live in sov null, it looks like. An area of space specifically designed to be controlled by massive groups of players. Set up shop in LS/WH space and you will do just fine solo.

This is a really strange topic that keeps jumping about, but the question doesn't seem all that invalid to me (even if the OP hasn't presented it well). If a player choses to join a player corp, why can't they deploy personal structures?

All of the explanations and work-arounds presented are based upon existing systems, some of which have significant flaws and aren't particularly intuitive (i.e. corp roles/structure mechanics). Why should you have to either opt out of player groups or acquire roles within a larger group to own a player structure in space? What purpose does it serve? It's evident players want personal ownership of structures - and why shouldn't they?

Fair enough in highsec, because individuals can't be wardecced, structures have different constraints. But what about everywhere else where a structure can be aggressed without a wardec? What's the reasoning imposing a mechanic to fit highsec across the whole of the game?

Forcing people to launch structures within a corp is seen as a 'content generator' because there's potential for theft and it supposedly promotes player interraction. But in reality this is systematically bypassed by individuals launching alt corps, and by large groups who restrict and monitor access. So it's already flawed and players have established workarounds, which means the system fails players. Why keep strenuously justifying it?

It's a system that's been in place for a long time due to structure mechanics and corp roles, but it's one that has been repeatedly challenged. Rather than defend it from an entrenched position because this is how it's always been, isn't it worth asking whether there's scope to review that under a new design? Citadels are new, and their mechanics should not be based upon the crap we've had to deal with relating to POS and corp role legacy code. It's not unreasonable to propose new approaches to make these things unique and interesting, particularly if it promotes new gameplay mechanics.

As an example: citadels that supers can be tethered to. If players were allowed to deploy these personally, and by opting out their corp would be blocked from any notifications, the risks would be significant. Same for players attempting to launch market hubs. A tweak wouldn't necessarily make things 'safer' and might promote different types of risk/content. What it might mean is that players within groups can create their own content without reference to corp/alliance policy. Which might actually add risk and variety. Or granularity for sub-groups within player organisations without fiddling with corp roles too much.

solo and small gang pvp still exsist i happen to do it all the time :P most of it is solo, low sec faction warfare gets alot of solo fights

I lived solo in a C1 with a LS static for a while. That was some of the better solo play I have had in the game. Between gas mining and PI, more than enough ISK to keep you in ships. LS and low level WHs to find fights.

I could have laid my argument out better I admit. I wonder what CCP's reasoning is for not giving a reworked role system with this. Is it because they don't want the majority their paying players to have any power or because the technology doesn't let them?

It took them YEARS from the time they first announced an overhaul of the POS system to get to citadels. Why? Because nasty old code. I can't even imagine what the code for roles look like.

This game doesn't let you have fun. Its a job.

News to me. I made just around a bil in the last few days selling some stuff that has been waiting for decent prices. I have the ships I need to do what I need, ISK for fuel saved up for a few months. Guess what? I'm not looking at my wallet or doing any serious PvE-ing until I go through that billion I just earned.

I have a job IRL. I 'grind' for money for over 40 hours a week at that. If I treated my gaming in my free time as "OMG I need to max the ISK I made today" I would shoot myself.

You can easily cover POS fuel, ship replacement and ammo living solo in a C1/C2 with gas production and PI alone. You won't be as space rich as the guy farming incursions 23/7, but if you keep the lights on in your home and have a good time doing it, who on earth cares?