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Elite Dangerous lacks depth

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Zeko Rena
ENCOM Industries
#21 - 2015-12-11 00:29:42 UTC
I really enjoy ED, but it is similar in EVE in the way that the players make the content, yes the mission system is about as boring as EVE's I can agree to that.

Looking forward to the Horizons expansion launching next Tuesday, which will include landing on planets that do not have atmospheres for now, and being able to drive around in a buggy, I have been avoiding the beta so not sure what you can do while in said buggy Smile
Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-12-12 23:12:40 UTC
Zeko Rena wrote:
I really enjoy ED, but it is similar in EVE in the way that the players make the content, yes the mission system is about as boring as EVE's I can agree to that.

Looking forward to the Horizons expansion launching next Tuesday, which will include landing on planets that do not have atmospheres for now, and being able to drive around in a buggy, I have been avoiding the beta so not sure what you can do while in said buggy Smile



For the love of God, no. Do not buy Horizons! I have forced myself to play Elite (I'm at 75 hours now) and it's completely sterile. I really want to like this game, but I cannot. And Horizons is basically the same thing with buggies.

Save your money for a PLEX or something.

"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2015-12-13 16:16:02 UTC
Robert Sawyer wrote:


Elite Dangerous is about a mile wide and an inch deep. It lacks depth, and depth means content. Every mission is generic, such as mine in XX or mine in YY, kill this NPC, smuggle this space weed into a station etc. The game is an ungodly grind for a new ship, and it's not even exciting since you do the same things over and over and over again, even if you've reached "endgame" (which is inexistent).


Sounds like EVE to be brutally honest.

However, if you are going by the "EVE Online" definition of content, which is the amount of people that you can blow up in a internet spaceship game then yes, EVE is packed to the brim with content. But it is also very easy to fill a fictional region of space (New Eden) with stuff compared to the Milky Way that we habit. Just try it, billions upon billions of stars and trillions of objects.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#24 - 2015-12-13 16:34:05 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
... However, if you are going by the "EVE Online" definition of content, which is the amount of people that you can blow up in a internet spaceship game then yes, ....
List the different activities and how many different ways you can go about doing them.

Yes, it boils down to blowing up ships but there is a great deal between ore and wrecks.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2015-12-13 17:34:09 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
... However, if you are going by the "EVE Online" definition of content, which is the amount of people that you can blow up in a internet spaceship game then yes, ....
List the different activities and how many different ways you can go about doing them.

Yes, it boils down to blowing up ships but there is a great deal between ore and wrecks.


No there isn't. Because if there is any depth in EVE, it is only in your mind.

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2015-12-21 20:54:45 UTC
Eh. I said ED would kill EVE. However, the ED devs are worse than CCP.

Back during the beta, the kept increasing ship prices while not adding any new ships. Then made it more difficult to make more money.

It was if they thought they could add more content by adding more grind.

Also their lack of commitment to the Oculus Rift was perturbing. Many people bought ED to play on the Rift, but the devs failed to figure out how to get it working in direct mode.

Also it always felt like playing with yourself and that space was almost empty.

I knew several people who bought it but are not playing anymore.

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Nachtengel von Rothschild
#27 - 2015-12-22 08:53:56 UTC
i bought it because tards claimed it an mmo and it was supposed to be similar to eve according to what i heard.

wrong.

400 billion systems, about 20 people playing. whenever i bring this up somewhere close to ED fanboys they always say "well if you go near the most popular systems you will see others" oh ok, so what's the point of the other 399,999,999,996 systems? "it's for exploration... endless exploration" too bad i can't tell the difference between systems... other than their names i guess.

you need to refuel in this game... or you are going to end up in the middle of no where hoping for someone who doesn't exist to come and save you.

best part of this so called mmo is, you can play online with the option to never encounter another human... even though there's like no one in the game regardless. you can't even chat in this game unless you are locked to someone close to you... you can't even form guilds/corporations or whatever name you want to come up with... there is none of it.

it isn't an mmo, it's a single player game with online authentication... just like diablo 3 and path of exile.

multiplayer option =/= mmo.
always online =/= mmo.

very disappointed.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-12-23 12:00:52 UTC
As an EvE player I will forever put its MMO gold standards (no instancing, single shard persistent universe, player driven economy) now on every other MMO game ... sadly E:D doesn't even try to compete here. Sad

I'm my own NPC alt.

Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2015-12-25 06:08:08 UTC
Nachtengel von Rothschild wrote:
i bought it because tards claimed it an mmo and it was supposed to be similar to eve according to what i heard.

wrong.

400 billion systems, about 20 people playing. whenever i bring this up somewhere close to ED fanboys they always say "well if you go near the most popular systems you will see others" oh ok, so what's the point of the other 399,999,999,996 systems? "it's for exploration... endless exploration" too bad i can't tell the difference between systems... other than their names i guess.

you need to refuel in this game... or you are going to end up in the middle of no where hoping for someone who doesn't exist to come and save you.

best part of this so called mmo is, you can play online with the option to never encounter another human... even though there's like no one in the game regardless. you can't even chat in this game unless you are locked to someone close to you... you can't even form guilds/corporations or whatever name you want to come up with... there is none of it.

it isn't an mmo, it's a single player game with online authentication... just like diablo 3 and path of exile.

multiplayer option =/= mmo.
always online =/= mmo.

very disappointed.



Picked on one item there... having to refuel? If you're into deep exploration, that sounds like a 'hang up the game' moment waiting to happen.
Jade Blackwind
#30 - 2015-12-25 08:39:07 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
Picked on one item there... having to refuel? If you're into deep exploration, that sounds like a 'hang up the game' moment waiting to happen.


1. Fit a module called a Fuel Scoop of an appropriate size for your hyperdrive before you go out exploring.

2. When you feel that your fuel is low, skim the corona of a nearest scoopable star (that's most of the main sequence. Brown and white dwarves, T Tauri, etc. provide no fuel) until you see the message "Fuel scoop active" on your HUD and the fuel bar starts filling.

3. Maintain balance between the heat (so the star doesn't bbq your ship) and the fuel intake rate (so the refueling process takes 40 seconds and not 4 hours) until the tank is full.

4. ???

5. Cash in exploration data and PROFIT.

Voila, your guide to refueling in E:D.
Tiberius Amzadee
The Night Stalker Syndicate
#31 - 2015-12-29 03:39:04 UTC
Geesh,people sure are impatient. Give the game time if it survives long enough and all the whiners will wade out into the ocean of space and suddenly drop off the continental shelf and into the abyss.
I'm personally holding off till the temperate planets are avaliable so I can set up my farm on one of them. I really want to be a space cowboy.
...Burn the land and boil the sea,
you can't take the sky from me.
Nachtengel von Rothschild
#32 - 2015-12-29 05:16:12 UTC
this guy claims people are impatient yet the game is over a year old... how much patience does it need in order to accept a boring game as a good game? aren't people allowed to write negative reviews or opinions or is negativity going to be censored on these forums as well?

it's all about rainbows and unicorn folks, the only reason you dislike this game is due to lack of patience.

forums... Roll
Taunrich Kaufmann
Hykkota-Kaufmann Foundaries LLC
#33 - 2015-12-30 06:19:29 UTC
I think I'll stick with EVE. Hopefully they can get ED to work, but from what I've seen the price/content ratio just isn't worth it, and probably won't be for quite a long time.
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