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So the New Frig LOGI YAY

Author
Cycule
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-12-11 22:48:57 UTC
So earlier this year I posted about new frigate type logi ships in the link below.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5765570#post5765570

The response I was getting was mostly negative towards the idea of a new T2 Logi ship. It was also tossed around how it would only work if it got bonus to resist and such.

Well it looks like CCP has blessed us with the T2 Frig logi, and looks like they gave us more than just resists, we got range!

Whats everyone thoughts so far with these T2 Frig Logi?

Personal opinion I am loving them so far.
soranno
14th Legion
#2 - 2015-12-12 10:41:12 UTC
Cool ships

Restricted from entering FW small plexs is a bit of a joke

please do not take months to fix that
Megan Maynard
Protean Concept
Moss Piglet Preservation Society
#3 - 2015-12-12 14:27:01 UTC
Because allowing a t3 destroyer in is fair as well?
If you allow t2 logi into smalls I may as well fight in mediums since it would be the same damn thing.
soranno
14th Legion
#4 - 2015-12-12 16:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: soranno
So now it's a FRIGATE, that can only go into medium and large plexes.

A FRIGATE

Into a medium, accompanied by exeqs, guardians or whatever, begs the question , what is the point of this ship.

The possibilities for exciting fleet compositions including these ships, and the new destroyers are aplenty, and reduced to nothing when brought into a med with guardians and HACs.
What is even the point in even having plex sizes

edit: incidentally I had no problem with t3destroyers in smalls. They are not nearly as scary as some people make them out to be,
Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
#5 - 2015-12-13 08:50:41 UTC
soranno wrote:
So now it's a FRIGATE, that can only go into medium and large plexes.

A FRIGATE

Into a medium, accompanied by exeqs, guardians or whatever, begs the question , what is the point of this ship.

The possibilities for exciting fleet compositions including these ships, and the new destroyers are aplenty, and reduced to nothing when brought into a med with guardians and HACs.
What is even the point in even having plex sizes

edit: incidentally I had no problem with t3destroyers in smalls. They are not nearly as scary as some people make them out to be,


Cancer t3d's camping small beacons shooting whatever frigate whit easy wasnt clearly enough for you mayn. Do you really want a cancer t3d whit a t2 logi frigate repping around 1k dmg per 2.25sec camping beacons in small fw plexes? When cancer isnt enough, you want even more of said cancer...
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
#6 - 2015-12-15 02:08:35 UTC
Megan Maynard wrote:
Because allowing a t3 destroyer in is fair as well?
If you allow t2 logi into smalls I may as well fight in mediums since it would be the same damn thing.


If we're talking solo in smalls, then griffins and tech 1 logi frigs are just as bad.

The tech 1 logi gets butchered in the smalls during the big slugouts because destroyers put them in the ground so fast they don't matter.

As is, these new frigates are worthless for FW because the only plex they can go into is the mediums........and cruiser tech1/2 logi can go in there.

The small meta is and has been for many years that once you get into the dozens of pilots on each side you're better off in cormorants or talwars and such. If these new logi frigates were allowed into the smalls it would open up the usage of the tech 2 destroyer hulls to counter cormorants and talwars.

The command destroyers MJD field helps get you there but you still have to chase, and a decent number of corms shreds through pretty much everything quickly. If they anchor up on their own command destroyer it gets even worse.

Unless you have big buffers and logi that can take a pounding, corms will continue to reign supreme.
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
#7 - 2015-12-15 02:11:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Templar Dane
Mysa wrote:
soranno wrote:
So now it's a FRIGATE, that can only go into medium and large plexes.

A FRIGATE

Into a medium, accompanied by exeqs, guardians or whatever, begs the question , what is the point of this ship.

The possibilities for exciting fleet compositions including these ships, and the new destroyers are aplenty, and reduced to nothing when brought into a med with guardians and HACs.
What is even the point in even having plex sizes

edit: incidentally I had no problem with t3destroyers in smalls. They are not nearly as scary as some people make them out to be,


Cancer t3d's camping small beacons shooting whatever frigate whit easy wasnt clearly enough for you mayn. Do you really want a cancer t3d whit a t2 logi frigate repping around 1k dmg per 2.25sec camping beacons in small fw plexes? When cancer isnt enough, you want even more of said cancer...


Unless you live on mars or your computer is a potato, nothing can catch you on an acceleration gate.

edit

Or if you have the reflexes of a slug.
Iyokus Patrouette
Noir.
The Network.
#8 - 2015-12-18 00:41:38 UTC
soranno wrote:
So now it's a FRIGATE, that can only go into medium and large plexes.

A FRIGATE

Into a medium, accompanied by exeqs, guardians or whatever, begs the question , what is the point of this ship.

The possibilities for exciting fleet compositions including these ships, and the new destroyers are aplenty, and reduced to nothing when brought into a med with guardians and HACs.
What is even the point in even having plex sizes

edit: incidentally I had no problem with t3destroyers in smalls. They are not nearly as scary as some people make them out to be,


There is more to Eve than small plexes, at the end of the day all those currently ignored frigate wormholes can finally be used by a good fleet comp with Logi frigates.

and the 'exciting fleet comps that are reduced to nothing because of HACs/Guardians' is a dumb argument, especially if you have 1 command destroyer in your frigate/destroyer fleet.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----