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Hear Hear!!

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Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#1 - 2015-12-11 04:46:03 UTC
I just wanted to write that this is one of the most beautiful things I've seen written about this game. It should be printed on the box. Good job, Falcon.

(As I believe this comment only appears in locked threads, I had no other way to reply but to re-post it. )


CCP Falcon wrote:


Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.

Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.

While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.

The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.

True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.

The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.

EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.

EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.

EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.

Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.

EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.

Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.

That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.

Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#2 - 2015-12-11 04:57:19 UTC
tl:dr

@JerryTPepridge

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-12-11 05:02:37 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
tl:dr

Eve hard. You die. Don't cry.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-12-11 05:03:52 UTC
Old hat is old.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#5 - 2015-12-11 05:10:25 UTC
You are just seeing this quote now? Its many weeks old and have been copy-pasta'd many times since then....
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
M'pact
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-12-11 05:12:41 UTC
Love that description. It's a wonderful and accurate portrayal of this beautiful universe of ours.

The real TL;DR is "HTFU noob".

When I finally do make an impact on this universe, it will reverberate across the entirety of it, and no one will be able to truthfully claim they don't know me. - -

Until then, I'll just sit quietly over here, minding my own business...

Tremain Oldfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-12-11 05:22:15 UTC
That's what CCP should put in eve's description when marketing the game.
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#8 - 2015-12-11 05:22:57 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
You are just seeing this quote now? Its many weeks old and have been copy-pasta'd many times since then....


Sorry bout that. I've been out of game for over a year and just re-subbed 2 days ago. It was quoted in that "Really" topic that was written today so it looked current. Either way, one more 'copy-pasta' won't hurt.

YK

Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-12-11 08:50:37 UTC
Safety has never been an issue. However fairness/rationality and logic have and remain so regardless of a long-winded, "hey, you asked for it" polemic by one of management.

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#10 - 2015-12-11 09:12:00 UTC
Sadly the game is, and has been, moving more and more away from that premise.
The Power Broker
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-12-11 13:38:01 UTC
Citadels going boom and magic space loot fairies = Falcons post isn't entirely true!
Cristl
#12 - 2015-12-11 15:16:30 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Sadly the game is, and has been, moving more and more away from that premise.

Is this true though? I don't recall highsec ganks really being a thing back in the day at all (I joined during Exodus expansion), but now the forum seems to suggest that highsec ganks are commonplace. Lowsec is much more dangerous than before (I lived the first several months or so in a rupture in innocent bliss in lowsec, and never got killed, despite a PVE fit) but the logged on player figures were about 5000 around that time, so it's hard to make a truly fair comparison (no hotdrops back then too, obviously).

I've always found nullsec, if you live there, safer than lowsec too - communal intel channels and bubbles and all that.

Are there any figures around to compare "then and now"?
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#13 - 2015-12-11 15:39:25 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
tl:dr

Eve hard. You die. Don't cry.


this should be printed on the box...

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#14 - 2015-12-11 15:51:25 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
You are just seeing this quote now? Its many weeks old and have been copy-pasta'd many times since then....



That's a lot of weeks lol.
Solecist Project
#15 - 2015-12-11 15:51:49 UTC
Cristl wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Sadly the game is, and has been, moving more and more away from that premise.

Is this true though? I don't recall highsec ganks really being a thing back in the day at all (I joined during Exodus expansion), but now the forum seems to suggest that highsec ganks are commonplace. Lowsec is much more dangerous than before (I lived the first several months or so in a rupture in innocent bliss in lowsec, and never got killed, despite a PVE fit) but the logged on player figures were about 5000 around that time, so it's hard to make a truly fair comparison (no hotdrops back then too, obviously).

I've always found nullsec, if you live there, safer than lowsec too - communal intel channels and bubbles and all that.

Are there any figures around to compare "then and now"?
Regarding highsec ganks it's propaganda.
If it was that bad, you'd see it everywhere and CCP would step in.
People are tricked by propaganda and high isk values which tell nothing about the ganking scene per se.

I think he was talking about something different.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#16 - 2015-12-11 16:20:04 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
You are just seeing this quote now? Its many weeks old and have been copy-pasta'd many times since then....
It's many years old and has been copy pasted by the man himself quite a few times before.
And there is no shame in that, it's a good message.

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......

Alea
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-12-11 19:41:31 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
tl:dr

Eve hard. You die. Don't cry.


I so wanna steal that and use it as my sig.

Whomever is making the last few years decisions on what changes are to be implemented in this game, must hate Eve with all their being.

Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-12-11 19:51:19 UTC
Eh. Player toxicity will eventually be the death of EVE.

But personally I have never been ganked in high sec outside of faction warfare so I think advertising high sec as dangerous is disingenuous.

Unless you are dumb.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server

Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-12-11 20:20:33 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Eh. Player toxicity will eventually be the death of EVE.

But personally I have never been ganked in high sec outside of faction warfare so I think advertising high sec as dangerous is disingenuous.

Unless you are dumb.


You'd be surprised how many dumb people play EVE.
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#20 - 2015-12-11 20:33:33 UTC
One of my first ship losses was a BS to a Wolf. I was alone and couldn't hit him.

Newbros are all kinda dumb. There's a lot to learn.

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