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How to get into PvP

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Liara Iwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-12-11 15:46:19 UTC
I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.

But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.

What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer?
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#2 - 2015-12-11 16:44:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Persephone Alleile
Get in a frigate and cruise faction warfare space, learn to locate potential targets via d-scan and engage any solo frigs you think you can take. You'll lose some ships but don't get discouraged.

Alternatively you can join a militia and do the same thing without getting a negative security status, though it will lower your standings with the opposing factions.

EDIT: If you are interested in wormhole space you can also try hunting explorers in an Astero or something, takes patience though as there are not as many potential targets in w-space generally.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#3 - 2015-12-11 20:56:35 UTC
get 20 scram kite frigates to a border system in FW zone, then go blow stuff up until you have lost them all.

Frapsing yourself and reviewing for mistakes, watching and reading everything pvp related you can get your hands on, and find people better at pvp than you to discuss with.
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-12-11 23:08:39 UTC
Liara Iwara wrote:
I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.

But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.

What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer?

So in order to learn to PvP you want to do the hardest kind of PvP with nobody to teach you? Okaaaaay. You want tips, here are my tips. Join a corp.
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#5 - 2015-12-12 01:59:00 UTC
Convo me the next time im online and ill do my best to give you some pointers.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#6 - 2015-12-12 02:59:10 UTC
You get into PVP by shooting at people.
Mr Click
Mr Click Corp
#7 - 2015-12-12 07:01:24 UTC
I have really got into solo pvp last few months. (don't play often enough for a corp). Leant a ton of stuff from you tube, try these channels for solo pvpv eve is easy, eveproguides, iddoEvE
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#8 - 2015-12-12 10:54:50 UTC
Bombers Bar
It's a channel. Check it out.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Kethen T'val
Dontopiax Mining Inc.
#9 - 2015-12-13 09:15:02 UTC
Liara Iwara wrote:
I'm new to EVE and really want to learn how to PvP. I've done exploration and find myself sort of hanging out in wh but I crave the excitement of the hunt.

But what's the best way to solo pvp? I'm not in a corp and want to learn how to pvp solo so I can learn.

What are some ways others have dipped into pvp and what tips can you give a newcomer?



Try RvB! Great community and u will get a ton of help from both sides. We are a big family no matter what side u are on. Great way to experience gang pvp and solo pvp. Usually alot easier to find fights than the rest of the eve universe and if u for some reason cant find fights, we are very close to FW space if u like that sort of thing. We also go on lowsec roams more or less every day.
Dealz Orlinard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-12-13 11:58:39 UTC
Everyone has given great tips for getting into solo pvp and, like a couple others, I agree that you should join a corp like Brave Newbies or Red Vs Blue. Once you feel pretty comfortable shooting at people, and have a decent knowledge base, only then would I tackle solo pvp. It is still going to be difficult but you will have built a bit of a foundation that will lead to your occasional success and much less frustration. Whenever you do decide to get into solo, the best way is to buy a bunch of T1 frigates and go fight stuff.

Knowledge of the game, especially the capabilities and possible fittings of each ship is the majority of solo pvp in eve, so read and watch tons of videos. Like others have mentioned, Eveiseasy, EveProguides, and IddoEve are great youtubers. Dabbler is another good one. Also, The Altruist blog by Azual Skoll is a must read. In particular, the know your enemy portion. One last thing, try to message some of the people you fight and ask for tips or suggestions on how you could have done better, you may be surprised how helpful most of the solo pvpers are. Hope to see you out there.

Here are some links:

http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBUJG6Bfnqc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYMmAPEe-kFE4ZsG0OH_NCt3AAUc-eCKL
https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/Abbadon2110/featured
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2015-12-13 18:20:27 UTC
Brave are horrible and their alliance/s are falling apart, nobody should join Brave.
Kethen T'val
Dontopiax Mining Inc.
#12 - 2015-12-13 22:32:58 UTC
To be fair, they seem to have found their Place in FW. Apart from a few selfserving individuals, sov was never intended to be a lasting or realistic thing and now they are doing what they should have been doing all along. That Said, the vast majority of Brave members Will never aspire to be anything more than F1 monkeys.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#13 - 2015-12-14 06:31:08 UTC
Both of their alliances together managed to fail, twice to defend the only valuable customs offices in the game from our 20 man highsec PVP alliance. They're about as bad as bad gets.
Kethen T'val
Dontopiax Mining Inc.
#14 - 2015-12-14 10:25:45 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Both of their alliances together managed to fail, twice to defend the only valuable customs offices in the game from our 20 man highsec PVP alliance. They're about as bad as bad gets.


We didnt try, they are not Worth it 😆😆

RVB is about killing eachother and have fun, not to resort to local pvp on forums 😏
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#15 - 2015-12-14 14:50:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Except you did try, pretty much continuously until Rooney handed them over to Brave, who also tried with a tengu/eagle fleet, failed both times without killing anything and sustaining losses and gave up when it became apparent they couldn't actually stop us from taking them.

Considering that RVB tried to prevent us taking them to the extent of not allying red into our war with blue so we couldn't shoot reds POCOs and later transferring them to Brave, who then imidiately tried and failed to defend them with tengu/eagle fleets without a single kill and billions in losses to show for it the "we didn't want those anyway" is not exactly convincing. Moreso when you take into account the finances (or more accurately the lack thereof) of both Brave and RVB.

The face saving rhetoric is tired, put it away.
Kethen T'val
Dontopiax Mining Inc.
#16 - 2015-12-14 22:04:38 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Except you did try, pretty much continuously until Rooney handed them over to Brave, who also tried with a tengu/eagle fleet, failed both times without killing anything and sustaining losses and gave up when it became apparent they couldn't actually stop us from taking them.

Considering that RVB tried to prevent us taking them to the extent of not allying red into our war with blue so we couldn't shoot reds POCOs and later transferring them to Brave, who then imidiately tried and failed to defend them with tengu/eagle fleets without a single kill and billions in losses to show for it the "we didn't want those anyway" is not exactly convincing. Moreso when you take into account the finances (or more accurately the lack thereof) of both Brave and RVB.

The face saving rhetoric is tired, put it away.




Remember, Brave is Brave. Rvb is rvb. I remember a few small fleets going out but most of us didnt really care and didnt even go. Anyway we dont really miss them either. Also u gotta remember, we dont really play the greafing/local spam game. Cant speak for everyone ofc but I dare say that to the majority of us its just some distant thing that happened and ud be surprisedhow many didnt even know we had pocos. Its RvB after all, many of us got Into rvb just because defending assets is boring so we just want the gfs. Saving face is of no concern 😝. Im here to help the OP
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#17 - 2015-12-15 12:42:50 UTC
There was a pretty visible and massive rift between what the RVB general populace knew and cared about and what the "command" people were interested in. I'm sure the vast majority of the alliance had no involvement with the POCO empire beyond someone telling them to get into a Ferox or Caracal for some fleet at some point in time and had even less contact with the money they output, which appears to have gone almost entirely to lining the pockets of some director.

Brave were a different story, they declared defense of them a strategic operation (presumably on account of them being totally broke and needing the money) and brought a 50 man tengu/eagle fleet to try and defend them, spamming local all the while. They gave up trying after two tries where they accomplished nothing and lost a bunch of stuff for their effort. Which was very funny after all their chestbeating in their internal mails about how they were going to kick our butts.

Due to extensive spying we managed to get a pretty interesting view of what was going on with the whole thing. The big lesson to take away is that Rooney is a terrible person.
Kethen T'val
Dontopiax Mining Inc.
#18 - 2015-12-15 15:41:48 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
There was a pretty visible and massive rift between what the RVB general populace knew and cared about and what the "command" people were interested in. I'm sure the vast majority of the alliance had no involvement with the POCO empire beyond someone telling them to get into a Ferox or Caracal for some fleet at some point in time and had even less contact with the money they output, which appears to have gone almost entirely to lining the pockets of some director.

Brave were a different story, they declared defense of them a strategic operation (presumably on account of them being totally broke and needing the money) and brought a 50 man tengu/eagle fleet to try and defend them, spamming local all the while. They gave up trying after two tries where they accomplished nothing and lost a bunch of stuff for their effort. Which was very funny after all their chestbeating in their internal mails about how they were going to kick our butts.

Due to extensive spying we managed to get a pretty interesting view of what was going on with the whole thing. The big lesson to take away is that Rooney is a terrible person.



Who i like and who I dont like Ill keep to myself. Same with what I knew about where what isk went where. I just gotta say that the general feeling I have is that Im really proud of the RvB core. We are indeed a family uniqe in the Eve universe and we are now even less tied to some stupid politics. And we are having even more fun.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2015-12-15 16:34:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
It's difficult to express how much that particular individual stood out from basically anyone I've ever seen in EVE as an absolute dreg. Most people have some kind of standard that they adhere to and levels to which they won't stoop, but that guy just plain doesn't. The mind blowing thing was the incessant lying, to everyone, he lied continuously to the RVB membership, he lied to Brave, he even lied to CODE. and Marmite when he went groveling to them for help. Almost everything he typed in corp chat, said in mumble or mailed to alliance was either an outright lie or a lie of omission. He was also terribly eager to jump ship at the first sight of trouble while also trying to desperately cling to influence. A self-interested, dishonest, cowardly, incompetent blowhard, it was just thoroughly contemptible.

The worst part is we still see him in Nourvukaiken local because it's next to Tama. It is nice to see him relegated to being a rank and file frigate peon though. All his importance evaporated about as quickly as his loyalty.

Having people like that trying to use RVB as their personal path to glory can't have been fun.
William Weatherwax
Three-Headed Monkeys
#20 - 2015-12-15 23:19:41 UTC
Every time you lost a fight contact the person who killed you and ask for advice. Most of the time those guys are incredibly helpful.
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